chsu74

Anyone else hear this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pa1meqFFjjM

Aquygen's technology was invented before 1997 and only used 4 ounces of water to travel 100 miles in a Ford Focus. we can see products for our cars in as little time as two years.

Next round of public financing is only $10 million dollars.

NNH

In related news, the FAA has given the go-ahead for porcine aviation

chsu74

Why are you skeptical of technological innovations/breakthroughs? The fact that the company already has contracts with Lockheed, Diamler Chrysler, General Dynamics, NASA and US Gvt (to build a Hydrogen Hummer) makes your comment sound ignorant.

Marc Gelefsky

Whats with that video??? did a guy drink 20 cups of coffee and try hold the camcorder up to the TV??

gregorycarl

Gotta love the guy shuffling through his hand written index cards! I think if you look closely the last card says "buy a black berry when this thing takes off"...not sure, but I think so...

I believe if the technology is that promising and was invented over 10 years ago, he should be driving around in a porsche hydro-car by now.

LiveFromNY

I have a little knowledge of these guys and this space and it's generally agreed that these guys are crackpots. While I hesitate to rely on any data from Wikipedia, they state it pretty well:

"The firm Hydrogen Technology Applications (HTA) has trademarked oxyhydrogen as Aquygen. HTA's founder Dennis Klein holds a patent for an electrolyzer design which states that it differs from Yull Brown's torch patents in that it lacks an electric arc feature.

The claimed applications of HHO and Aquygen are practically indistinguishable from the original claims of Yull Brown. The HHO trademark is associated with an unproven state of matter called magnegases, and a discredited theory about magnecules, which is the basis for a number of fraudulent claims, and third party water-fuelled car scam attempts."

chsu74

oh well! If its too good to be true.

LiveFromNY

At least you didn't give them the $10 million!

Wellardmac

... NNH has reason to be sceptical. Just because someone is sceptical doens't make them wrong. Remember, several of us are scientists and if it hadn't been said sooner I'd be laughing my *** off at these guys and mocking them.

Hydrogen fuel cells are a worthy goal and a lot of research dollars are going towards making viable cells.... we are a long long way from a cell that will be viable in a car.

chsu74

Your right about that. I'd have to sell my soul afterwards.

NNH

I'm sceptical because
1) The energy required to separate water into hydrogen and oxygen is the same as the energy that can be liberated by combining hydrogen and oxygen to make water. Once parasitic losses are taken into account, there is a net energy loss. Anything else would be perpetual motion (ie impossible).

2) Even if you accept this loss and generate hydrogen at home using electricity, to power your vehicle, the numbers are implausible: 4 ounces of water contain about half an ounce of hydrogen. By comparison, even driving very economically, a Focus would need 2-3 gallons (~12-18 pounds) of gas to cover 100 miles. So I don't believe the "4 ounces" bit either.

Meister Fahrer

In other news, the inventor of Pringles was buried in one of his cans.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/06/02/pri....ap/index.html

Gaspasser19

Sadly, he died of asphyxiation shortly there after.

salayc

The fact?

chsu74

Anyone here with a piece of land in the Everglades for sale? I may be interested.