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Old Mar 25, 2008 | 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by perryinva
Just so I get it straight, you said both use the same sway bars, but the additional work is to change the sway bar? Do you mean that you have to detach & re-attach the new swaybar links to the new strut body, but the sway bars are the same..OR...the sway bars are physically different but the same diameter? Thanks for your help, I seriously appreciate it!!
The sways are the same for US M030 and ROW M030.
The sways for the standard suspensions are smaller.
The article in the PCA link in an above post explains everything in detail.
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Old Mar 25, 2008 | 06:47 PM
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Done properly I would not be surprised at 6-8 hours to install an ROW M030 especially if you do a proper alignment and corner balance at the same time. You WILL NEED a 4 wheel alignment after the swap.

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Old Mar 25, 2008 | 06:56 PM
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There is nothing to corner balance as the shock and strut bodies are not threaded for height-adjustable perches. Unless you shim the stock perches or something, which could get very time-consuming. The OP quote of 12 hours labor was not including alignment. It's an excessive quote, as several here have indicated home garage times of 4-6 hours (less alignment).

But, hey, everybody has bills to pay and maybe his shop has a racing addiction to fund or something.
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Old Mar 25, 2008 | 09:16 PM
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Hey Achillies, if you tell us where you are, we might be able to recommend another shop. If you're in SoCal, I'd recommed Johnson Alignment in Torrance.
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Old Mar 27, 2008 | 02:07 PM
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I see!! I assumed the standard suspension WAS US M030 vs ROW M030....supidity on my part, as M030 is obviously an option code NOT on my car!
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Old Mar 28, 2008 | 12:51 AM
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Originally Posted by perryinva
Just so I get it straight, you said both use the same sway bars, but the additional work is to change the sway bar? Do you mean that you have to detach & re-attach the new swaybar links to the new strut body, but the sway bars are the same..OR...the sway bars are physically different but the same diameter? Thanks for your help, I seriously appreciate it!!
You have to do more than take the mounts and ends loose. To get the front one out, you have to remove the front undertray. Start counting the fasteners.

The M030/ROW M030 sway bars are larger diameter than the standard sway bars. They come with different bushings, but use the same mounts.
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Old Mar 28, 2008 | 12:25 PM
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I just bought a set and waiting for my next oil change to get them installed. Does anyone need to see pics of the kit?
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Old Mar 28, 2008 | 08:11 PM
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Another data point, my shop took 10 hours to install and align and rebalance 2 wheels. this was on a C4 and he said the 4 added about about 4 hours extra. Good shop, which had done other M030 jobs before.

Fantastic upgrade, still very streetable, but a lot more fun around the track.
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Old Mar 28, 2008 | 08:40 PM
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Mine took ~ 6hrs plus alignment.



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