ScottArizona

Thinking about replacing the struts and springs since my car has 85k, and will probably try to source a used row mo30 set if one becomes available in the next couple months or so.

Can someone tell me if the row mo30 suspension is different for a tip, 6speed, c4 and c2. I have a 99 c2 tip and want to make sure I have my ducks in a row before I acquire something I can't use. Thanks guys, Scott.

Gert

There are 16 different M030 kits.
'99-'01 vs '02-'04
C2 vs C4
Coupe vs Cab
6-speed vs Tip

ScottArizona

Ahh, thanks so much...looks like finding the right used kit might be tough...I wonder if this place I've heard of...Carnewal...stocks 'em. (Just kidding! I'll probably be in contact with you shortly Gert...thanks again). Scott.

steve germany

So, here in Europe I can surmize that all of the PCars here are based with the ROW M030 suspension and I just have to find another 6speed 4S set up?

Harold

Gert, can I ask what the differences would be between a 996TT six speed and 996TT Tip PSS9 kit, if any? Wondering now as I am guessing that if Porsche created different Mo30 kits for a tip or 6 speed 996, there would also be a reason to differentiate if one was to get a suspension set up for the 996TT with a tip transmission. Thanks in advance.

Gert

The only difference between the factory suspension of the 996TT 6-speed and Tip are the rear springs.
The Tip version is slightly heavier in the rear, so this version has a different spring that allow the car to sit at the same ride height as the 6-speed version.

There is only one PSS-9 (soon to be PSS-10) kit for all 996TT's.
These are coil overs, so even if the car is heavier, you can adjust the height to the correct setting.

Gert

Not sure that I understand your question correctly.
The 996TT and C4S came with M030 as standard.
The 16 kits that I mentioned above are for the 996 C2 and C4 version for which the M030 sport suspension was optional.

steve germany

I have the US version of the C4s which has the raised bumper profile. If I found a Euro C4S suspension that was available I could install it in my car and have the better suspension. Actually you answered my question by your responce! - THANKS

Gert

The only difference between the US and RoW M030 of the C4S are the shocks and the springs.
The sway bars are the same.
Great looking car btw, is that Atlas Grey ?

roberga

GERT you are a great sponsor!

steve germany

Thanks for the help Gert.

To be honest the car in the pic is speced out the same as mine (C4S Black) but mine is waiting to get on the ship to Germany and should be here in 6 weeks.

gota911

Steve,

I am curious as to why you are using a pic of Phil's car as your sig. photo.

steve germany

Tim,

I explained in my previous post - same options - but mine is in route. Currently in Baltimore. I guess I need to edit in a disclaimer in the Photo before I offend someone!

gota911

I guess I missed Gert's question in the previous post. I don't think Phil will mind you using a pic of his car. At least this way Phil's car gets to see the light of day occasionally. Phil will only get pissed off if two things happen 1) if you drive it and 2) if you leave it outside for more than 30 minutes at a time.

10 GT3

Absolutely not true. Take a look under the trunk lid of any C4S or TT and you will not see "030" in the option list. The C4S and TT each have a unique suspension tuning, but are not designated as sports suspensions. The US has a unique suspension with a higher ride height on these models that their comparable ROW suspensions just like the other Carrera models.

It is true that there are different sport suspensions for different models:

C2 Coupe 6-sp
C2 Coupe tip
C4 Coupe 6-sp
C4 Coupe tip
C2 Cab/Targa 6-sp
C2 Cab/Targa tip
C4 Cab/Targa 6-sp
C4 Cab/Targa tip

Each of these models has a different Sports Suspension. The reason is Porsche uniquely tuned each for the particular model's weight. Spring rates, lengths, shock tuning and sway bar sizes all vary by model as a means of optimizing handling for each model. The choice to go with a tip is not only lesser performance from worse gearing and slower shifting, but also adds over 100 lbs to the weight of a 6-sp. Porsche tries to help with stiffer spring rates and sway bars to control the weight better. Cab and Targa models are 200 lbs over comparably equiped coupes. A C4S starts the scales 276 lbs over the same year C2. Porsche chunkiest 996 was the 996TT Cab tip with a hardtop, topping the scales right at 4000 lbs...yes there is a such thing as a 2-ton 911.

It is actually very surpising that Porsche goes through the expense of uniquely tuning each model. With the aftermarket they don't. Hence why they have a PSS9 for a C2 and a C4, but don't differentiate for tips over 6-SPs or Cabs over coupes.