The new 997 GT3 and GT3 RSs are experiencing a large number of RMS failures judging by the number of owners reporting the problem. I wonder if this will sink their value like it has with the 996. Granted other factors are at play with the 996 such as oversupply but who knows.

All we need is someone to loose an engine(and post about it of course, which they undoubtably will) and these cars will depreciate faster than sub-prime lender stocks. LOL

I just may be able to buy one of my dream cars, the 997 GT3RS, next year for about $50,000. LOL

P.S. I am not holding my breath.

 

997s have a higher production number than 996s too.

 

RMS is a relatively small issue. At $1k each to fix, it's not going to deter porsche owners to get one, if this is indeed a problem.

Didn't know that the GT series engines have RMS issues. I thought it was largely on the NA 997(S) and 996. What is the source of this? Hope it's just rumor....

 

RMS had nothing to do with 996 depreciation. 911s before it had much scarier problems. The reason the 996 is the Rodney Dangerfield of 911s is a combination of it being the first departure from the original formula, the overstated number of engine failures (Porsche replaced many unnecessarily, as you probably know) and the fact that many people bought them who were not dyed-in-the-wool Porschefiles (Just under twice as many 996s were made as 993s).

As far as the 997s go, I just have to wonder how many of those cars are low mileage toys and 'collector' cars. Porsches don't like to sit, and it's inconceivable to me that Porsche wouldn't have solved the basic design problem by now.

 

The source are several threads which have been started on the 997 GT3/GT2 message board. Sorry but I am not sure how to post a link to other threads.

Given the extremely small number of new GT3s and GT3RSs in the U.S., the amount of owners experiencing leaking RMSs shows there is still a problem for Porsche with this issue.

 

I agree with everything you have said except for your statement that "RMS had nothing to do with 996 depreciation." The fact is RMS has had a lot to do with damaging 996 resale values, albeit undeservingly IMHO. If you search the internet for info. on the 996 you will find tons of scary stories about RMS problems with the 996. You cannot tell me that the proliferation of these stories has had no effect on the values of 996s. If you read some of these stories you will find that many people associate the term RMS with engine failures because Porsche did so many unnecessary engine replacements due to recurring RMS failures on some engines. Granted some of these swaps may have been necessary in the rare instances where there were manufacturing defects with the engine itself.

Look, my point in posting this thread was that the RMS issue for 996 cars has been and continues to be totally blown out of proportion. The fact that it is now happening to 997s, 997 GT3s, and 997GT3RSs only proves this point. These cars are not defective or disposable simply because some cars have RMS issues. I only hope that this thread can be an end-all and be-all to the RMS issue for the 996.

Of course, we all know this will not be the case.

 

I would be more than happy to make space for a GT3 or GT3 RS - regardless of this 'issue'.

Andreas

 

+1

 

True. Many of them on this forum and others like it. I actually agree with your point, here. I've argued in the past that all this hair pulling and teeth gnashing about seals is ridiculously overblown and damaging to the reputation of the car. Not helped, incidentally, by Porsche's earlier policy of replacing entire motors in some cars that had leaks, which made it all seem so dramatic to people who didn't know much about cars.

"Dreaded RMS"? Please.

 

Let me see here. RMS went out on 2 of my cars over the last 20+ years of Porsche ownership. If you are not leaking oil...it's not a Porsche OR buy a Ferrari for real maintenance FUN A lot of people who buy these cars think they are just like their first Honda....just faster and better looking. NOT. Expensive europeon sports cars are expensive europeon sports cars to maintain and Porsche is one of the least expensive of the lot. Either get in...or get out but all the whinning and crying doesn't change a thing and never will in my lifetime. Or has anyone noticed this?

 

Here is positive report on RMS failure. I have an '04 C2 purchased with 24k miles that had the RMS replacement done as a part of the CPO, the car now has 28.4K and after reading this I checked the oil once again. Still not down even by 1/2 qt. When I test drove the car the smell of burning oil from outside of the car was very obvious. I had read about the RMS and the smell had me debating the purchase for well over a week. But, I REALLY wanted this specific car, it just "felt" right to me. So I justified and rationalized, re-called how my old '68 911 used to push oil all over the place and how the smell was even inside the car. Plus, this one was CPO - so what the heck - I figured I could deal with it.

To my surprise the burning oil smell was gone in less than 500 miles of driving, I spoke with the service manager at the dealer and he looked up the RMS repair. He told me I should have no worries as it was the latest seal with an additional alignment tab AND upgraded and additional mounting bolts.

So, I own an example of a successful repair with a so far non-recurring RMS issue. Oh, and yes, the car is driven daily and it does see near red line revs on a regular basis.

 

I think the 997 RMS issues are with the GT3, RS variants, but so far not the turbos.

I wish Porsche would figure it out and fix the cars up front. There is not excuse for any 2007 car having rms IMHO.


JB

 

I agree with your post. No car is perfect since every car is man-made. And man is not perfect. Even a Honda Civic has flaws. Our Civic back in 00 had a busted transmission after 3 months.

I agree... with the two choices: 1) continue owning it or 2) stop whining by getting rid of the car. Pick one.

 

OK, the RMS is the real reason I'm selling my Porsche!

Oh wait, I've already had my RMS replaced. Too late!

 

Oh crap, here we go again. This anecdotal crap is the stuff that keeps stats guys like me hitting the bottle