Overweight 996?
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I've recently had my '99 996 coupe weighed and was unpleasantly surprised when it tipped the scales at 3200+ lbs., roughly 200 more than the official spec for my car as stated in the owner's manual. According to the spec, my car, (996 C2 manual trans), should be somewhere between 2950 and 3000, depending on equipment.
My car has an aero kit on it, but all that did was replace the stock engine cover w/ a FG piece and a different (FG) front bumper + some plastic skirt deals over the rockers.
I was planning on putting this car on a diet anyways since it will be taken to the track whenever possible, but I thought that I would be starting out with a ~3k lb. car. Where the heck is all of the extra ballast in my car?? I've been known to carry around a newspaper or two and a laptop, but this is ridiculous. In seriousness, I even emptied-out the car before weighing it, and it had about a 1/2 tank of gas.
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My car has an aero kit on it, but all that did was replace the stock engine cover w/ a FG piece and a different (FG) front bumper + some plastic skirt deals over the rockers.
I was planning on putting this car on a diet anyways since it will be taken to the track whenever possible, but I thought that I would be starting out with a ~3k lb. car. Where the heck is all of the extra ballast in my car?? I've been known to carry around a newspaper or two and a laptop, but this is ridiculous. In seriousness, I even emptied-out the car before weighing it, and it had about a 1/2 tank of gas.
Any insight is very appreciated!
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when you say "emptied out" does that mean you ditched the spare and tools as well. If I'm not mistaken, that is worth 39 lbs right there. Also, if you have full power seats (as I do), I know they are very heavy. FYI, there is a great thread posted over on six-speed in the 996tt forum (it is "stickied" at the top of the forum), and it is all about reducing weight in the 996 turbo's, much of which applies to our cars as well. I light weight battery is also a good place to save weight as well. Good luck.
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My 2000 C2 Tiptronic weighed 3220lbs (calibrated for race cars) with I believe 1/4 to a 1/2 tank of gas. The scale you weighed on could of been off possibly. I have supple power seats, spare/tools, and a subwoofer box with 2-10"s.
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Another possible explaination for a heavy car is a spec sheet with a bunch of options or a car with aftermarket add on equipment.
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Optimistic and dry(no oil,no gas,no fluids) is Porsche"s claimed weight of 2919lbs. as their lightest published weight. I'd say you're in the ballpark for other 996's on the forum.
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Thanks for all the replies, I've been away from the board for a few days. I do know about all of the easy things to eliminate, the so-called "low-hanging fruit" of weight-loss, like the spare tire and lighter battery, since I have put other cars on diets in the past. My problem is that my baseline/starting weight is somehow ~200 lbs. heavy according to spec. I've weighed it on two different scales and the # came up almost identical, so there is no error there.
My experience w/ previous Porsches has been that the factory figures are pretty close. (Owned 10 Porsches over 30 years). It really has me baffled(?)
The other challenge is where to point the scalpel, front seats are pretty heavy, but the rears weigh very little. On earlier 911s, the rear seats were a lot more substantial and tossing them gave you an instant ~20 lbs. off of the heavy end of the car. I like my 996, but I could love it if it was about 3-400 lbs. lighter. Weight-loss is by far the best performance mod; you gain accelertion/handling/braking all at once w/ no trade-off in dependability or fuel mileage. In fact, those things improve. This car would really wake-up with a good diet. Thanks again, and keep the ideas coming!
My experience w/ previous Porsches has been that the factory figures are pretty close. (Owned 10 Porsches over 30 years). It really has me baffled(?)
The other challenge is where to point the scalpel, front seats are pretty heavy, but the rears weigh very little. On earlier 911s, the rear seats were a lot more substantial and tossing them gave you an instant ~20 lbs. off of the heavy end of the car. I like my 996, but I could love it if it was about 3-400 lbs. lighter. Weight-loss is by far the best performance mod; you gain accelertion/handling/braking all at once w/ no trade-off in dependability or fuel mileage. In fact, those things improve. This car would really wake-up with a good diet. Thanks again, and keep the ideas coming!
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overweight, you betcha. the 996 is kinda porky. i am ENVIOUS of all the lightweight early 911s that i see on the track. 2000 lbs screamers.
here's what i've done to cut the fat:
LWF
CF hood
muffler bypass
race seats (driver side only)
partially gutted interior
this, plus the half cage and 1/4 tank, got me to 2890lbs. porsche's claim of 2910 for the '99 996 is for a 0 option (read no sunroof) and bone dry car... and i still think they were fibbing just a little.
going to delete the sunroof, stereo, speakers and airbags but this may only get me to 2800. add another 30 lbs for the full cage.
here's what i've done to cut the fat:
LWF
CF hood
muffler bypass
race seats (driver side only)
partially gutted interior
this, plus the half cage and 1/4 tank, got me to 2890lbs. porsche's claim of 2910 for the '99 996 is for a 0 option (read no sunroof) and bone dry car... and i still think they were fibbing just a little.
going to delete the sunroof, stereo, speakers and airbags but this may only get me to 2800. add another 30 lbs for the full cage.
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First, Porsche NEVER quoted 2910 lbs for the dry weight of a US 996 Carrera. People mistakenly interpret the European numbers when the European cars that had thinner single pane glass, no side-impact door beams and lighter bumpers. Base curb weight does not include fluids or optional equipment. Car & Driver magazine's long-term 99' 6-sp Carrera weighed in at 3149 lbs with power seats, litronics, digital stereo and 18" wheels. If you want to drop weight, I would recommend looking for a good set of race seats (Euro GT3 or Pole Positions) and a better sport exhaust (Fabspeed or Tubi). These 2 mods will drop around 100 lbs.
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First, Porsche NEVER quoted 2910 lbs for the dry weight of a US 996 Carrera. People mistakenly interpret the European numbers when the European cars that had thinner single pane glass, no side-impact door beams and lighter bumpers. Base curb weight does not include fluids or optional equipment. Car & Driver magazine's long-term 99' 6-sp Carrera weighed in at 3149 lbs with power seats, litronics, digital stereo and 18" wheels. If you want to drop weight, I would recommend looking for a good set of race seats (Euro GT3 or Pole Positions) and a better sport exhaust (Fabspeed or Tubi). These 2 mods will drop around 100 lbs.
Also, Porsche did not manufacture cars for the European market w/ thinner glass and no door beams(??), where on earth do you get this nonsense? Europe has stricter safety standards than the USA, this is just silly.
Also, on the other thread about weight on this page, some people are claiming figures closer to the owners manual for cars almost identical to mine. Still searching for the answers...