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Old 09-01-2007, 12:06 AM
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First of all, keep in mind, this is for DEing and not club racing.

With that said, I have a couple DE weekends coming up (4 days of track time). My dilemma is whether I should put on my muffler bypass pipes. It's pretty sweet sounding, but the downside is torque loss.

I'm in the intermediate group, and running solo. So I'm not sure which will have more fun factor -> blasting down the long straights or pulling out of the low speed corners.

Any thoughts?

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Old 09-01-2007, 05:33 AM
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Excuse me guys. but I continue with my express english class...
What do you mean with DE?
Anything like "daily" ....??
Thanks in advance
Old 09-01-2007, 08:43 AM
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Excuse me guys. but I continue with my express english class...
What do you mean with DE?
Anything like "daily" ....??
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DE = Driver Education
Old 09-01-2007, 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by juankimalo
Excuse me guys. but I continue with my express english class...
What do you mean with DE?
Anything like "daily" ....??
Thanks in advance
DE = Drivers Education

Basically it means driving your car around a closed track and learning about how to control the vehicle at high speed. It is not considered racing because it is not competitive. No lap times and no winners or losers. Some organizations also call it HPDE which stand for "High Performance Drivers Education".

http://www.pca.org/drivers_ed/

http://www.nasaproracing.com/hpde/index.html
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Originally Posted by smackboy1
DE = Drivers Education

Basically it means driving your car around a closed track and learning about how to control the vehicle at high speed. It is not considered racing because it is not competitive. No lap times and no winners or losers. Some organizations also call it HPDE which stand for "High Performance Drivers Education".

http://www.pca.org/drivers_ed/

http://www.nasaproracing.com/hpde/index.html
Thanks guys. It's what we call "Cursos de conducción".
It's a good way to learn how to control a car where you get into troubles. Oversteer, understeer, braking, wet surface, slippy track... It helps you a lot as a secure way.






I've been studing english for several years (when I was at College and beggining University) but I left it. At now I'm recovering a little bit everyday, doing what I love = Porsche world.

In Spain we don't have a good Porsche culture. Germany, UK and USA are a few light years far from us, and in this forum we can find a very good bag of information. Thanks everybody to help me feel a rennlister. I'll try to add as much as possible.

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Old 09-01-2007, 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by td873
It's pretty sweet sounding, but the downside is torque loss.
Yes and no. You lose just a bit down low but you gain it back up high! Trust me on this one. If you spend you entire day between 5-8K rpm you have no worries

I ran with another GT3 friend at VIR a couple weeks back and I pulled ever so slightly from him on the back straight. Not mention, I am running 8 degree shims (more downforce=speed loss) and running heavier tires.
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Originally Posted by LVDell
Yes and no. You lose just a bit down low but you gain it back up high! Trust me on this one. If you spend you entire day between 5-8K rpm you have no worries

I ran with another GT3 friend at VIR a couple weeks back and I pulled ever so slightly from him on the back straight. Not mention, I am running 8 degree shims (more downforce=speed loss) and running heavier tires.
Dell,
8K -> you must have a GT3. Yeah, yeah, yeah, rub it in

I'm finally going to get to test out the M030. It's been so long since I was out, I don't even know if I'll remember the stock feel.

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Old 09-01-2007, 03:16 PM
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You'll like the M030 (RoW version). I installed it in our CAB and love it! Much more planted and stable at speed.
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M030 is big fun. It makes the car more inclined to rotate, and it seems to make the car's balance much more sensitive to small changes in tyre pressure (caveat emptor: this analysis is based on just two track days at very limited talent level, and is therefore worth slightly less than you paid for it )
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Bypass pipes at the track ROCK! (Ask me how I know. ) They make the whole experience that much better.

You left out some of the other positives of using the pipes...less weight at the back of the car (I can feel the difference in my GT3) and lower engine compartment temps (it was triple-digits when I was at Thunderhill yesterday).

Sheesh, this is a total no-brainer. Save the mufflers for your trips to church and the grocery store.
Old 09-02-2007, 01:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Holger B
(I can feel the difference in my GT3)
YOu and Dell just keep rubbing it in. GT3 GT-shmee.

I'll give it a go, and report back.

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