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Old 05-11-2007, 04:52 PM
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I read before on this board of 996's having a problem with oil starvation during track usage. I have not noticed this problem myself before this past weekend at Summit Point. On several turns the oil preassure drops dramatically. I know B-K sells a baffle kit. If I recall correctly Porsche also sells a baffle kit as part of the Power Package for the 996. Does anyone have experience with either of these kits? Information on the Porsche part would be great. And yes I tried a search but came up dry...so to say.
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Unless you are running slicks and pushing the car to the limit, you need not worry.

Not trying to convince you to NOT get a oil kit but just giving you the 411. Hopefully Jim will chime in since he has alot of expereince tracking a 996C2.
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I think the answer is that you don't need one but to be honest I don't think any of us really knows. I DE'ed and raced my 996 for many years without one and it ran great. But, when I added a 3.6L with the power kit I added the Porsche kit just to be safe. After 3 years of racing the 3.6L its leak downs are 5-6%. Nearly perfect. So who knows.

Bottom line. If I were in your shoes, I wouldn't bother. If you would like the extra piece of mind, go for the BK kit. I don't think it does much but it's a fraction of the cost of the factory kit which might not even be available anymore.
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With that crystal clear response?

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Thanks guys for the input. I may check the price for the B-K kit and go from there. Nice to know I don't have to worry too much at this point.
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Brey Krause doesn't seem to change the baffle but rather adds a half quart of capacity. I recently did the x51 baffle after seeing some drops in vigorous mountain driving (heavy braking at the end of a high speed straight with a hard, almost hairpin turn and immediate climb out of the turn). Ordered it from Suncoast or Sunset, can't remember which. Easy install. Certainly no more difficult than the B-K. Haven't been back to the mountains since the install though so I can't comment on its effectiveness yet. It is substantially different than the original factory baffle though. Cover's the sides of the pan more and is metal instead of plastic like the original.
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Originally Posted by viper501
Brey Krause doesn't seem to change the baffle but rather adds a half quart of capacity. I recently did the x51 baffle after seeing some drops in vigorous mountain driving (heavy braking at the end of a high speed straight with a hard, almost hairpin turn and immediate climb out of the turn). Ordered it from Suncoast or Sunset, can't remember which. Easy install. Certainly no more difficult than the B-K. Haven't been back to the mountains since the install though so I can't comment on its effectiveness yet. It is substantially different than the original factory baffle though. Cover's the sides of the pan more and is metal instead of plastic like the original.
Is there a new baffle kit? The factory oil starvation kit requires that you remove the heads and have some new holes tapped into them. I don't remember the specifics but it was not an easy DIY. Maybe they've come up with something new or else they are selling part of the kit.
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Originally Posted by JimB
Is there a new baffle kit? The factory oil starvation kit requires that you remove the heads and have some new holes tapped into them. I don't remember the specifics but it was not an easy DIY. Maybe they've come up with something new or else they are selling part of the kit.
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Here's a link Jim

http://e-partssales.com/Merchant2/me..._Code=996sport
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I did the x51 pan... I had to put an extra quart in (factory recommends 9 quarts). I really cant explain why. Can anyone else confirm this? Does the X51 pan hold an extra quart?
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redridge, I don't think so, although you might have gotten a much better drain this time round. The part numbers for the x51 pan itself matched my 99's original pan.
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Originally Posted by LVDell
Unless you are running slicks and pushing the car to the limit, you need not worry.

Not trying to convince you to NOT get a oil kit but just giving you the 411. Hopefully Jim will chime in since he has alot of expereince tracking a 996C2.
I must be missing something. Please educate. The original post indicates that the pressure drops dramatically in some turns. Unless my physics is off, the only way that can occur is if the oil pump is sucking air.
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Think about the lateral g's you are inducing with slicks and where the oil ends up? Hence the advantage to running with the baffles inside. Or better yet, running a true dry-sump system ala the GT3.
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Right and you said "need not worry." Seems to me, if he's pulling air, he should worry.


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