996 Ownership costs
#1
996 Ownership costs
Thinking about buying a 996-C4 that has 82,000 miles and can be expected to need significant maintenance costs in the next year or so. What should I be prepared to pay for parts and labor using OEM parts at an independent shop:
Front and rear brake rotors and pads
Clutch replacement ( including flywheel, seal, et al)
90K mile inspection and service
Thanks
Front and rear brake rotors and pads
Clutch replacement ( including flywheel, seal, et al)
90K mile inspection and service
Thanks
#2
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Originally Posted by Woodenewe
Front and rear brake rotors and pads
Clutch replacement ( including flywheel, seal, et al)
90K mile inspection and service
Clutch replacement ( including flywheel, seal, et al)
90K mile inspection and service
2. Not sure
3. $500
#3
forget about taking your car to the shop for everlittle thing, The 996 has super easy brake pad/rotor replacement, parts are still expensive tho, DIY $700, new clutch and rms $1500 or so at indy- same work to replace rms which is $20 part, 90K service is easy diy oil change and spark plug change and filters if you want and a bunch of inspections, maybe $300. This is low side DIY. P-car owners tend to live in fear of the maintenance costs but many of them are easy DIY and you get to learn about your car in the process.
#4
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I had these done in last six months at an independent shop:
Brake pads, rotors including labor, no tax: $472.57
Clutch kit, replace clutch assembly, no tax $1079.80
Don't know if the 90k service is more involved than the 30k but had mine done at an authorized dealer all told was $494.63.
Brake pads, rotors including labor, no tax: $472.57
Clutch kit, replace clutch assembly, no tax $1079.80
Don't know if the 90k service is more involved than the 30k but had mine done at an authorized dealer all told was $494.63.
#5
OEM Clutch and Flywheel $2400 w/tax that's with no labor and it was done at a P-dealer
The flywheel is not cheap $1000
Plan on 8 hours of labor
What you want done is not going to be cheap. Look for a P-car that has some of this stuff done, or make sure you get the car on the cheap
The flywheel is not cheap $1000
Plan on 8 hours of labor
What you want done is not going to be cheap. Look for a P-car that has some of this stuff done, or make sure you get the car on the cheap
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Rusnak Porsche Pasadena (Ca) charges about 1850 for the clutch. Roughly 650 for the part and 1200 labor. I just had it done as part of my new motor and only had to pay for the parts as the engine was already out.
#7
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Originally Posted by WAC
I had these done in last six months at an independent shop:
Brake pads, rotors including labor, no tax: $472.57
Brake pads, rotors including labor, no tax: $472.57
That's so cheap, I'd seriously take a day to go through and get a good look at what exactly was put on your car.
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#8
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Originally Posted by evansaero
OEM Clutch and Flywheel $2400 w/tax that's with no labor and it was done at a P-dealer
The flywheel is not cheap $1000
Plan on 8 hours of labor
What you want done is not going to be cheap. Look for a P-car that has some of this stuff done, or make sure you get the car on the cheap
The flywheel is not cheap $1000
Plan on 8 hours of labor
What you want done is not going to be cheap. Look for a P-car that has some of this stuff done, or make sure you get the car on the cheap
A complete clutch replacement should cost no more than $800 which includes parts and 3-4 hours labor max. (book on clutch replacement is 4 hours, most techs can do it is 2.5 hours) The parts that need to be replaced (clutch plate, pressure plate, and throwout bearing are under $400)
The only time a flywheel needs to be replaced on a 996 is when it has been subjected to repeated abuse from dumping the clutch. 98% of the time all a flywheel needs to have done to it is to have the surface cleaned.
When Porsche designed the 996, they contracted to Toyota to maximize the serviceability of the car, and make it easy and cheap to repair and replace things like the powertrain. Did you know that the entire powertrain can be R&R in under 3 hours?
#9
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Originally Posted by bpoteat
Where on earth did you get that? That's really, REALLY cheap. Even if you got the absolute cheapest rotors available, the rotors alone are pushing you to $500. Add $100 for bottom-of-the-barrel, dirt-cheap pads and you are looking at $600, just in parts alone.
That's so cheap, I'd seriously take a day to go through and get a good look at what exactly was put on your car.
That's so cheap, I'd seriously take a day to go through and get a good look at what exactly was put on your car.
A pair of OEM (Zimmerman) front rotors are $250, and OEM (Pagid) pads are $125. Take a hour for labor, and that is a reasonable amount to pay.
I do doubt that price is for all four wheels, nor was it probably necessary. Under normal day to day driving, rear rotors should last for 100K miles.
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Originally Posted by Orient Express
Boy, somebody saw you coming.....
A complete clutch replacement should cost no more than $800 which includes parts and 3-4 hours labor max. (book on clutch replacement is 4 hours, most techs can do it is 2.5 hours) ?
A complete clutch replacement should cost no more than $800 which includes parts and 3-4 hours labor max. (book on clutch replacement is 4 hours, most techs can do it is 2.5 hours) ?
#11
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Originally Posted by Orient Express
A pair of OEM (Zimmerman) front rotors are $250, and OEM (Pagid) pads are $125. Take a hour for labor, and that is a reasonable amount to pay.
I do doubt that price is for all four wheels, nor was it probably necessary. Under normal day to day driving, rear rotors should last for 100K miles.
I do doubt that price is for all four wheels, nor was it probably necessary. Under normal day to day driving, rear rotors should last for 100K miles.
#13
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Originally Posted by Orient Express
When Porsche designed the 996, they contracted to Toyota to maximize the serviceability of the car.
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though it doesn't explicitly mention servicability, from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porsche -
"In 1990, Porsche drew up a memorandum of understanding with Toyota to learn and benefit from Japanese production methods. Currently Toyota is assisting Porsche with Hybrid technology, rumored to be making its way into a Hybrid Cayenne SUV."
When the 996 came out, the Toyota/Porsche relationship seemed to be mentioned in every other article about the car.
"In 1990, Porsche drew up a memorandum of understanding with Toyota to learn and benefit from Japanese production methods. Currently Toyota is assisting Porsche with Hybrid technology, rumored to be making its way into a Hybrid Cayenne SUV."
When the 996 came out, the Toyota/Porsche relationship seemed to be mentioned in every other article about the car.