Woodenewe

Thinking about buying a 996-C4 that has 82,000 miles and can be expected to need significant maintenance costs in the next year or so. What should I be prepared to pay for parts and labor using OEM parts at an independent shop:

Front and rear brake rotors and pads
Clutch replacement ( including flywheel, seal, et al)
90K mile inspection and service

Thanks

discoganya

1. $1100
2. Not sure
3. $500

missmy993

forget about taking your car to the shop for everlittle thing, The 996 has super easy brake pad/rotor replacement, parts are still expensive tho, DIY $700, new clutch and rms $1500 or so at indy- same work to replace rms which is $20 part, 90K service is easy diy oil change and spark plug change and filters if you want and a bunch of inspections, maybe $300. This is low side DIY. P-car owners tend to live in fear of the maintenance costs but many of them are easy DIY and you get to learn about your car in the process.

WAC

I had these done in last six months at an independent shop:

Brake pads, rotors including labor, no tax: $472.57
Clutch kit, replace clutch assembly, no tax $1079.80

Don't know if the 90k service is more involved than the 30k but had mine done at an authorized dealer all told was $494.63.

evansaero

OEM Clutch and Flywheel $2400 w/tax that's with no labor and it was done at a P-dealer

The flywheel is not cheap $1000

Plan on 8 hours of labor

What you want done is not going to be cheap. Look for a P-car that has some of this stuff done, or make sure you get the car on the cheap

itorque

Rusnak Porsche Pasadena (Ca) charges about 1850 for the clutch. Roughly 650 for the part and 1200 labor. I just had it done as part of my new motor and only had to pay for the parts as the engine was already out.

bpoteat

Where on earth did you get that? That's really, REALLY cheap. Even if you got the absolute cheapest rotors available, the rotors alone are pushing you to $500. Add $100 for bottom-of-the-barrel, dirt-cheap pads and you are looking at $600, just in parts alone.

That's so cheap, I'd seriously take a day to go through and get a good look at what exactly was put on your car.

Orient Express

Boy, somebody saw you coming.....

A complete clutch replacement should cost no more than $800 which includes parts and 3-4 hours labor max. (book on clutch replacement is 4 hours, most techs can do it is 2.5 hours) The parts that need to be replaced (clutch plate, pressure plate, and throwout bearing are under $400)

The only time a flywheel needs to be replaced on a 996 is when it has been subjected to repeated abuse from dumping the clutch. 98% of the time all a flywheel needs to have done to it is to have the surface cleaned.

When Porsche designed the 996, they contracted to Toyota to maximize the serviceability of the car, and make it easy and cheap to repair and replace things like the powertrain. Did you know that the entire powertrain can be R&R in under 3 hours?

Orient Express

A pair of OEM (Zimmerman) front rotors are $250, and OEM (Pagid) pads are $125. Take a hour for labor, and that is a reasonable amount to pay.

I do doubt that price is for all four wheels, nor was it probably necessary. Under normal day to day driving, rear rotors should last for 100K miles.

AndyK

If it takes 4 hours to do a clutch, why does it take 8 hours to do the RMS?

bpoteat

You're probably right. Since the OP specified front & rear, I assumed that's what he meant.

Orient Express

It doesn't. It only takes 3.5 hours to do an RMS.

MJBird993

What's your source on that fascinating little bit of info?

bpoteat

though it doesn't explicitly mention servicability, from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porsche -
"In 1990, Porsche drew up a memorandum of understanding with Toyota to learn and benefit from Japanese production methods. Currently Toyota is assisting Porsche with Hybrid technology, rumored to be making its way into a Hybrid Cayenne SUV."

When the 996 came out, the Toyota/Porsche relationship seemed to be mentioned in every other article about the car.

Orient Express

I also believe that there is some additional information in Paul Frére's 911 book that mentions this relationship.