catastrophic engine failure
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Oh, I see, it's "per car sold" not really "most" profitable.
Originally Posted by Dave Howerdel
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From: Another Ex pat Brit in SoCal
Originally Posted by utah997
So I'm assuming that '00 C2's are probably more at risk for this?
Major engine changes from MY02 onwards and the early QC issues appear to have been solved to a great extent.
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From: great neck, li
Originally Posted by cdodkin
MY 99 - end of MY 01 seem to have the most QC issues to date
Major engine changes from MY02 onwards and the early QC issues appear to have been solved to a great extent.
Major engine changes from MY02 onwards and the early QC issues appear to have been solved to a great extent.
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I have no horse in this race, but something comes to mind and that is.... Since when is a WHOLE ENGINE a replacement part? Why has Porsche not made parts available to rebuild the engines. Blows my mind!!!
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From: MIAMI
Originally Posted by slant911
I have no horse in this race, but something comes to mind and that is.... Since when is a WHOLE ENGINE a replacement part? Why has Porsche not made parts available to rebuild the engines. Blows my mind!!!
THE PARTS ARE AVAILAABLE, but the realistic cost of doing it is beyond what anyone would want to pay. Bewteen parts and labor your going to be 75% OF A completye unit for porsche, and still have all the old accessorys and no warrenty. I
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From: San Antonio, TX
Originally Posted by Dan V
M96 engine failures are statistically almost non-existent. In fact if you experience one you'll be the first one
this week.
this week.
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Originally Posted by cdodkin
MY 99 - end of MY 01 seem to have the most QC issues to date
Major engine changes from MY02 onwards and the early QC issues appear to have been solved to a great extent.
Major engine changes from MY02 onwards and the early QC issues appear to have been solved to a great extent.
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Burning Brakes
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Originally Posted by JasonAndreas
Pricing in North America as of November 2006 is
and depending on how your engine failed could mean a few additional thousands for things like oil coolers, radiators, hoses, etc.
Code:
Rebuilt Part # Exchange # MSRP Year Type Options -------------------------------------------------------------------- 996-840-051-ax 996-840-001-01 $11246.43 MY98-99 M96.01 C2 X51 996-840-001-ax 996-840-051-01 $7647.24 MY98-99 M96.01 C2 996-840-051-bx 996-840-051-02 $9703.26 MY99-01 M96.02 C4 X51 M620 996-100-996-qx 996-100-996-14 $9346.80 MY02- M96.03 X51 M660 M661 996-100-996-px 996-100-996-15 $9533.75 MY04- M96.03 X51 M660 M661 996-840-001-sx 996-840-001-09 $7647.24 MY99 M96.01 C4 996-840-001-fx 996-840-001-06 $7647.24 MY98 M96.01 C2 996-840-001-jx 996-840-001-10 $7647.22 MY99 M96.01 996-100-996-x 996-100-996-00 MY99 M96.01 996-100-996-ax 996-100-996-01 $12399.91 MY99-00 M96.02 M339 M620 M96.02/04 996-100-996-mx 996-100-996-12 $12399.91 MY01 M96.04 M660 M661 M620 M249 996-100-976-x 996-100-976-00 MY00+ M96.76 GT3 996-100-979-x 996-100-979-00 MY04+ M96.76 GT3 996-100-996-cx 996-100-996-03 $8129.56 MY00 M96.04 M660 M661 M620 (3.4L?) 996-100-996-lx 996-100-996-lx $7190.20 MY01 M96.04 M660 M661 M620 M480 996-100-996-dx 996-100-996-04 $6733.03 MY02+ M96.03 M660 M661 M480 996-100-996-ex 996-100-996-05 $6733.03 MY02 M96.03 M660 M661 M249 996-100-996-gx 996-100-996-07 $7493.65 MY02 M96.03 M660 M661 M480 996-100-996-hx 996-100-996-08 $7493.65 MY02 M96.03 M660 M661 M249 996-100-996-jx 996-100-996-09 $7568.60 MY03+ M96.03 M660 M661 M480 996-100-996-kx 996-100-996-10 $7568.60 MY03+ M96.03 M660 M661 M249
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Originally Posted by slant911
I have no horse in this race, but something comes to mind and that is.... Since when is a WHOLE ENGINE a replacement part? Why has Porsche not made parts available to rebuild the engines. Blows my mind!!!
Burning Brakes
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From: Las Vegas, NV.
For some of us the WHOLE ENGINE blew. NOTHING left to rebuild.
And I do get the point above on the cost of rebuild vs. value of new.
I just can't get beyond the fact that an engine has become an expendable item. I've owned some 1/2 dozen or more P-cars in my lifetime and the one thing I "thought" always was that the car would last forever no matter the model and when the engine went you replace the necessary seals, bearings, gaskets, etc... and do a nice machining of surfaces and you have a new car. Seems that ideology is now flawed for me
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Originally Posted by washington dc porsche
Probably, maybe, possible, doubful, not likely?
All one has to do is call a few dealerships' service or parts department and ask if they've replaced any engines. Just tell them you're is blown and you want a place that has done it before, if they question you as to why you're asking.
Also, go on Autotrader or Cars.com and type in "New Engine" or something similar in your 996 search. That may help a little.
All one has to do is call a few dealerships' service or parts department and ask if they've replaced any engines. Just tell them you're is blown and you want a place that has done it before, if they question you as to why you're asking.
Also, go on Autotrader or Cars.com and type in "New Engine" or something similar in your 996 search. That may help a little.
Altogether with TTL I paid just shy of $12,000.
I’m happy with my car but, there always is a but, I still don’t believe any car with less than 70,000 miles much less an $80,000 Porsche should have catastrophic engine failure especially when all maintenance work had been preformed early and the car had been driven normally and never raced.
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Originally Posted by rleeq
In January I paid $8,129.56 after a core credit of $2,375 at Dean McCrary Porsche in Mobile, AL. I call a Porsche dealer in New Orleans and asked them how much for a engine and they faxed me a quote of $8,129.56 after a core credit of $2,375.
Altogether with TTL I paid just shy of $12,000.
I’m happy with my car but, there always is a but, I still don’t believe any car with less than 70,000 miles much less an $80,000 Porsche should have catastrophic engine failure especially when all maintenance work had been preformed early and the car had been driven normally and never raced.
Altogether with TTL I paid just shy of $12,000.
I’m happy with my car but, there always is a but, I still don’t believe any car with less than 70,000 miles much less an $80,000 Porsche should have catastrophic engine failure especially when all maintenance work had been preformed early and the car had been driven normally and never raced.
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Originally Posted by washington dc porsche
Does anyone have a URL that states Porsche is the most profitable car company in the world? I think that title belongs to Toyota.