catastrophic engine failure
02-26-2007, 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by fast1
In his words 'the honeymoon period is over, Porsche are looking to charge a real-world price for these units and stop subsidizing them'.
Maybe Porsche has taken Gordon Gekko's remarks in Wall Street to heart. Here's his closing at a meeting of Teldar Paper stockholders:
Greed is right, greed works. Greed clarifies, cuts through, and captures the essence of the evolutionary spirit. Greed, in all of its forms; greed for life, for money, for love, knowledge has marked the upward surge of mankind. And greed, you mark my words, will not only save Teldar Paper, but that other malfunctioning corporation called the USA. Thank you very much.
Maybe Porsche has taken Gordon Gekko's remarks in Wall Street to heart. Here's his closing at a meeting of Teldar Paper stockholders:
Greed is right, greed works. Greed clarifies, cuts through, and captures the essence of the evolutionary spirit. Greed, in all of its forms; greed for life, for money, for love, knowledge has marked the upward surge of mankind. And greed, you mark my words, will not only save Teldar Paper, but that other malfunctioning corporation called the USA. Thank you very much.
While Porsche effectively decided to use the replacement engine strategy, rather than a recall, they subsidized the engines through the dealerships in order to reduce the cost burden and lessen the impact.
As soon as the effected group of engines drops out of Porsche warranty, they are looking at throwing money away if they keep subsidizing these engines in this way.
Why shouldn't they charge their costs plus their standard margin - as they do on everything else.
They do need to make a profit as a company, it's not a charity!
02-26-2007, 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by cdodkin
This looks correct for 06 - I understand that the pricing has increased since last year 'substantially'
Prices are from the February 2007 North American price list (SS means supercedes)
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996-840-051-ax $11246.43 --SS 996100951CX $11506.12 996-840-001-ax $7647.24 --SS 996100996 X $12399.50 996-840-051-bx $9703.26 --SS 996100951DX $11506.12 996-100-996-qx $9346.80 --SS 996100995CX $9534.09 996-100-996-px $9505.07 996-840-001-sx $7647.24 --SS 996100996AX $12399.50 996-840-001-fx $7647.24 --SS 996100996 X $12399.50 996-840-001-jx $7647.22 --SS 996100996AX $12399.50 996-100-996-ax $12399.50 996-100-996-mx $12399.50 996-100-996-cx $9304.96 996-100-996-lx $7190.20 --SS 996100996MX $12399.50 996-100-996-dx $6733.03 --SS 996100995DX $8752.59 996-100-996-ex $6733.03 --SS 996100995BX $8752.59 996-100-996-gx $7493.65 --SS 996100995DX $8752.59 996-100-996-hx $7493.65 --SS 996100995BX $8752.59 996-100-996-jx $7568.60 --SS 996100995DX$8752.59 996-100-996-kx $7568.60 --SS 996100995BX $8752.59
02-26-2007, 05:27 PM
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i am not sure if i read it correctly.
so for a MY2001 3.4 C2
996-840-001-fx $7647.24 --SS 996100996 X $12399.50
the price went up to $12399 now?
996-100-996-lx 996-100-996-lx $7190.20 MY01 M96.04 M660 M661 M620 M480
996-100-996-lx $7190.20 --SS 996100996MX $12399.50
so for a MY2001 3.4 C2
996-840-001-fx $7647.24 --SS 996100996 X $12399.50
the price went up to $12399 now?
996-100-996-lx 996-100-996-lx $7190.20 MY01 M96.04 M660 M661 M620 M480
996-100-996-lx $7190.20 --SS 996100996MX $12399.50
02-26-2007, 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by pl
i am not sure if i read it correctly.
so for a MY2001 3.4 C2
996-840-001-fx $7647.24 --SS 996100996 X $12399.50
the price went up to $12399 now?
996-100-996-lx 996-100-996-lx $7190.20 MY01 M96.04 M660 M661 M620 M480
so for a MY2001 3.4 C2
996-840-001-fx $7647.24 --SS 996100996 X $12399.50
the price went up to $12399 now?
996-100-996-lx 996-100-996-lx $7190.20 MY01 M96.04 M660 M661 M620 M480
If you look at the published 06 price
996-840-001-fx 996-840-001-06 $7647
You can see the 07 price has gone up to $12399
So a rise of $4752 - that's a 62% uplift
02-27-2007, 12:08 AM
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Was there any difference in the years to failure? IE did the production engine receive technical updating as it went along? I have an 04 C4S and I am sitting here scratching my head about whether to start driving like it was going to gernade or hurry up and purchase an extended warranty.
I think the main question is has the engine been receiving engineering updating to the 04 model?
I think the main question is has the engine been receiving engineering updating to the 04 model?
02-27-2007, 12:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Dan V
M96 engine failures are statistically almost non-existent. In fact if you experience one you'll be the first one
this week.
this week.
02-27-2007, 02:09 AM
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Originally Posted by bernocco930S
Was there any difference in the years to failure? IE did the production engine receive technical updating as it went along? I have an 04 C4S and I am sitting here scratching my head about whether to start driving like it was going to gernade or hurry up and purchase an extended warranty.
I think the main question is has the engine been receiving engineering updating to the 04 model?
I think the main question is has the engine been receiving engineering updating to the 04 model?
Drive it like you stole it!
02-27-2007, 04:04 AM
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Originally Posted by cdodkin
04 - you're good to go
Drive it like you stole it!
Drive it like you stole it!
Man that makes me feel better, I just bought the car Saturday!
eric
02-27-2007, 09:05 AM
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They do need to make a profit as a company, it's not a charity!
LOL Last time I looked Porsche was by far the most profitable car company in the world, but I guess there's always a need for more profit. You may call that good business practice. I call it greed.
LOL Last time I looked Porsche was by far the most profitable car company in the world, but I guess there's always a need for more profit. You may call that good business practice. I call it greed.
02-27-2007, 12:14 PM
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I remember reading that Porsche was the most profitable...somewhere.
Idea: Can we change the name of this thread to CEF...I hate seeing 'catastrophic engine failure' every time I check the forum!!
Idea: Can we change the name of this thread to CEF...I hate seeing 'catastrophic engine failure' every time I check the forum!!
02-27-2007, 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by washington dc porsche
Does anyone have a URL that states Porsche is the most profitable car company in the world? I think that title belongs to Toyota.
02-27-2007, 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by cdodkin
Yep
If you look at the published 06 price
996-840-001-fx 996-840-001-06 $7647
You can see the 07 price has gone up to $12399
So a rise of $4752 - that's a 62% uplift
If you look at the published 06 price
996-840-001-fx 996-840-001-06 $7647
You can see the 07 price has gone up to $12399
So a rise of $4752 - that's a 62% uplift
any way, i will put my car on market then, i am sorry i can't take a $15K loss should anything happen.
or, i will wait and see if any one will start rebuild 996 engine for 8K.