jugger911

See... this thread does have some "sand" to it. Hope that you grind those moron's into the ground. Good luck. Let us know how it goes.

Wellardmac

Nasty, nasty, nasty. Guilty of driving a Porsche. Being pulled over does not bother me, but only if it's legitimate. He was being lazy and wanted another mark for his quota.

Okay, here are a few thoughts for you.

His car will have a video of the traffic stop (it would be highly unusual for it not to have video). The video will have captured your carefless driving - get a copy of the video and have him point out the example of careless driving - use it in court.

Another thing - the video should have his speed captioned onto it. By looking at your car relative to him and his speed you will be able to infer your speed - that can go for or against you, use that one wisely, but be cautioned that you should be ready for that to come up.

Much as he doesn't like it (funny that, he's not the first cop I've heard of expressing that opinion), radar detectors are not illegal. Use the fact that you have one and that it didn't go off to your favor if you need to. In order to show you were speeding (if it comes up as a contributing factor) he needs ro have measured it some way.... it certainly wasn't by radar, point that out.

Good luck! When is your court date? Let us know how it goes. This is weak and he probably will not show up, but go in fighting.

Dave Howerdel

This strech of rt19 is well know as an area that has been "given" to the sheriffs dept by the local and state cops. 99% of the citations they write up are in a space of 4miles on rt 80 and 2miles on rt 19 that intersects rt 80 perpendicularly. Most locals from the area are well aware of this and make sure to keep somewhat below the limit when travelling through.

Well, he was on a bike on the side of the road. Nothing covert about it.
There were cruisers and bikes everywhere with cars pulled over. At first we assumed there had been an accident and slowed down even more to be cautious. He was sitting on the bike on the shoulder and pulled out after we had passed. Never thought for a minute that he would have been coming after me.

I've had discussions with state troopers and town cops about the sheriff's dept and there is a common consensus among them that the sheriffs dept does not need to have a force patrolling the roads, yet no one will address the issue as long as they continue to generate enough revenue to not only pay for their existence, but to also throw a bone to the surrounding towns. I'd say a good number of the citations wouldn't hold up in court, but then again, most of the time the officer will imply that you'll be wasting you're time when they inform you of your right to fight it. Hence, most just pay it and move on.

jugger911

That's a bunch of crap. I'd go and fight this one, but if no video; it's your word against his. We have a stretch of road like this one, 640 Bypass & Pellissippi Parkway. They will hide in the bushes or on the overpass with a motorcycle and have "chasers" around the corner. A bad point that my police-officer in-laws had was, WE stick out anyway. They said they have all pulled over cars just to talk car's to them. Meanwhile, we are crapin' our pants; and they are just passing time. If you at least show up to court, you might get away with only court-cost. Good luck!

Gary996

This is slightly off topic...........but can anyone tell me how to manually raise the wing in a 996?

Gary

LVDell

Gary, there is a toggle switch down by your left foot in an opening on the fuse panel cover that raises and retracts the rear spoiler.

ps. here is a great hack: http://www.renntech.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=7071

Gary996

Dell:

Thanks!!

Gary

LVDell

Very welcome

ps. I PM'd you a link for a sweet spoiler hack!

Wellardmac

Dave, this sounds like a BS pull-over from everything you've said. Do you know what speed you were doing and what was the posted limit?

Fight it. If you're lucky he'll not show, but get a good lawyer and fight it hard.

Dave Howerdel

The limit is 65 in the area and I was under 60 while going through the area. Had I been going any faster, He would have been able to catch me and pull me over until I had entered rt 80.

I could really care less about the 2pts or the $$ for the fine. It would be considerably easier to pay it and forget it but I feel obliged to fight it on principle alone. I consider court costs to be my fee for stating my case. At the very least, it should be interesting once I inquire as to how many citations were issued 1hr+ & - of the time I received mine and how many were written during the rest of the day. One other thing is that alot of cops seem rather humbled when called into court. They are totally different from when they pull you over. People are people and when placed in an environment where a higher authority presides, bull**** becomes easy to spot regardless of which side attempts to spew it.

I've a similar situation where I was pulled over and cited for 90mph in a 55. I had entered the free and begun accelerating when I was immediately pulled over. The spot where my car came to rest was less that 1/4 of a mile from where I enter the freeway. In court, the cop testified that he had seen me enter the freeway and paced me at 90 mph. He also confirmed that a picture I had taken was the area he had pulled me over. When presented with the laws of physics and how an early 944na differs from a top fuel dragster, the judge dismissed the case and was obviously perturbed with the officer(23 yr old rookie).

Justice, although expected, cannot be guaranteed when you're pulled over...but it can be sought in court(yet also not guaranteed).

I find that the state troopers are the most reasonable. They give you a bit more leeway and truly avoiding pulling someone over unless they are really doing something careless/dangerous/stupid. Local town cops are hit or miss. It really seems as though their attitude is highly dependent on what they've been told when they come on duty.

It seems that the sheriffs have been told, "write as many as you can. When uncertain, ticket and deal with it in court later." When you consider that police are there to serve and protect, the funny thing is that aside from supervising road work on county roads, and writing citations, they serve no other purpose...but the new black and white dodge chargers do look cool.

Wellardmac

Yeah, I'd fight this one on principle too. As i said, a fair ticket, then you pay it, but this seems to be a little unfair.

it will be interesting to get (in advance of the court date) what he thought was "careless driving". Get the info, then request a copy of the video from his car.

MirageMetallic

Last time I had a ticket the cop was right behind me as a roared off the line, hitting well past the local speed limit of 40mph. Suffice it to say I didn't realize the SUV with the headlights in my mirror was the K-9 unit when I did this.

The cop claimed it was foggy and wet. He said I went 75mph (it was more like 60, I did not tromp the pedal hehe). He said he paced me, in his K-9 carrying Ford SUV. How you pace me off the line in an SUV, while claiming that I did 75mph in a quarter mile is beyond me.

More than that, he didn't write me up for prima facie speed. He wrote me up for basic speed law -- unsafe for conditions. This pissed me off. I may have been 20 over the limit, but the traffic survey says the 85% speed there is 57mph. Besides it was late and night there was no traffic.

So I fought the ticket. I had a nice notarized National Weather Service document that cost me $65 to get, showing no fog and no rain in the hour by hour report. But I didn't get to use it, because the cop didn't show . . .

Morale: even when you blast off the line right in front of the cop -- fight the ticket. His whole premise was that you didn't feel like investing in a good traffic ticket book and are intimidated by the legal system.

Tippy

Or just get a fixed wing and forget about it.