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Old 11-30-2005, 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by djantlive
Honestly, if you only put 7k mi in 2.5 yrs, why do you even bother keeping the car? It's obvious you don't need the car.
Yikes! You sound just like my wife talking about my cars
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Originally Posted by 1999Porsche911
After you get it fixed, drive it more and harder. And if you are using 0W40 Mobil 1, stop using it.
I bought my car as a CPO and records indicated that the RMS was fix at 22k miles. I bought it at 31k miles and currently have 69k miles on it. I've had ZERO issues with using 0w-40 Mobil 1. But then again I do drive my car daily, track it and drive it like it should be driven. Plus I do make sure that the oil is always topped off.

Where are you getting your information about not using 0w-40?
Old 11-30-2005, 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by NickS
I bought my car as a CPO and records indicated that the RMS was fix at 22k miles. I bought it at 31k miles and currently have 69k miles on it. I've had ZERO issues with using 0w-40 Mobil 1. But then again I do drive my car daily, track it and drive it like it should be driven. Plus I do make sure that the oil is always topped off.

Where are you getting your information about not using 0w-40?

With your engine temperature averaging 215 - 220 around town in hot weather, your oil temp is in excess of 230F and probably closer to 240F. A 0W40 weight oil WILL NOT protect your engine in the long run. You have to run at least a 5W50 weight in the 3.4 engine. The 0W40 shears at that temperature and your bearings know it.
Old 11-30-2005, 01:18 PM
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As 1999P911 said, water temp displayed on the dash is generally 20-30 degrees lower than the oil temp. ...
Old 11-30-2005, 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by 1999Porsche911
With your engine temperature averaging 215 - 220 around town in hot weather, your oil temp is in excess of 230F and probably closer to 240F. A 0W40 weight oil WILL NOT protect your engine in the long run. You have to run at least a 5W50 weight in the 3.4 engine. The 0W40 shears at that temperature and your bearings know it.
Never heard of this before.... Checking Mobil-1s website they do not make a 5w-50. They only have a 10w-40 and 15w-50.

I use to use 15w-50 in my Turbo but I would think that's too thick to run in my 3.4??
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Originally Posted by NickS
Never heard of this before.... Checking Mobil-1s website they do not make a 5w-50. They only have a 10w-40 and 15w-50.

I use to use 15w-50 in my Turbo but I would think that's too thick to run in my 3.4??
I run 15W50 Mobil or Syntec in the summer months here in Chicagoland. In the winter I run 5W40. In Houston, I would just run 15W50 all year long in the 3.4.

Why would you think that the 3.4 could not run 15W-50 if your Turbo does?
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Originally Posted by djantlive
Honestly, if you only put 7k mi in 2.5 yrs, why do you even bother keeping the car? Sell it so you don't have to worry about it. It's obvious you don't need the car.
That's an unfair statement. There are many enthusiasts who own Porsche's (and other makes) and do not drive them daily, yet enjoy owning them. Just because they are not getting 12k miles on them annually does not mean the cars are not loved nor does it mean they are "not needed."
Old 11-30-2005, 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by axel6
That's an unfair statement. There are many enthusiasts who own Porsche's (and other makes) and do not drive them daily, yet enjoy owning them. Just because they are not getting 12k miles on them annually does not mean the cars are not loved nor does it mean they are "not needed."
Loved does not equal driven. I think the analogy that is being offered is you may love that "piece of art" but it is NOT meant to just sit.
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Originally Posted by djantlive
No point in fighting Porsche over this. They warranty the repair and covered it again when warranty was up. You have little ground in making they pay again to fix it.
Porsche never fixed the original problem they just replaced the seal. Three RMS leaks with three different seals all within 7000 miles tells you the seal is not the problem.

Has anyone hooked up an oil temperature sensor to their 996? The air-cooled models like to run around 190F-200F so I always figured the water-cooled motors would be similar if not cooler when generating similar power levels?
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Originally Posted by JasonAndreas
Porsche never fixed the original problem they just replaced the seal. Three RMS leaks with three different seals all within 7000 miles tells you the seal is not the problem.

Has anyone hooked up an oil temperature sensor to their 996? The air-cooled models like to run around 190F-200F so I always figured the water-cooled motors would be similar if not cooler when generating similar power levels?

The coolant temp is higher than 200F on these cars driving around town in warm weather. Oil is upwards of 230F. DO NOT use 0W40 in warm climates.
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I guess Porsche forgot to warn those of us out here in the Las Vegas desert about not using 0W-40.
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Originally Posted by LVDell
I guess Porsche forgot to warn those of us out here in the Las Vegas desert about not using 0W-40.
Not really. They sepecify a higher viscosity oil, but most do not use it. Their recommendations are based on the cooler, moderate ttemperatures of Europe. IMO, it is engine suicide to use 0W40 in and climate higher than 70 degrees. Sure, the car will run great right now, but anyone interested in maintaining ther enignes long term, they will be disappointed whenthe bearing rattles start and the carbon starts building up.

Porsche does not "recommend" 0W40, but smiply states that it is the factory fill.
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Then why is there no 50 in the Mobil1 line? And only a 15W-50 in the EP line? If there were a 5W-50 I would consider it but 15W-50 in the winter? No way.
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Originally Posted by 1999Porsche911
Their recommendations are based on the cooler, moderate ttemperatures of Europe.
Oil recommondations from PAG are usually broken down by region and country. I won't speculate on how they choose what does and doesn't make the list.

For example...
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Originally Posted by LVDell
Then why is there no 50 in the Mobil1 line? And only a 15W-50 in the EP line? If there were a 5W-50 I would consider it but 15W-50 in the winter? No way.

Castrol Syntec offers 5W50. There are dozens of approved oils, not just Mobil. People have come to interprete that because the car comes with Mobil 0W40, that that is what they should use. Even many dealers don't know better....or they simply don't care.


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