RoW M030 or Bilstein PSS-9
08-05-2005, 04:27 PM
#32
Originally Posted by C4S Surgeon
Stat, ride ht is what I'm talking about re alignment, and that can be changed after install. Adjust away.
08-05-2005, 10:19 PM
#33
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The ride height can be adjusted anytime on a coilover with the turn of a wrench. The problem with PSS9s and the like, in most hands the adjustability is useless, granted there are quite a few guys on Rennlist with track experience and they know what they are doing. The vast majority of the bling crowd has no clue, that's why their cars cough and sputter trying to get down the track in one piece, and some have learned there is more to a GT2 than the ride height alone. With PSS9s you have 9 adjustments, then add the variations in ride height, then if you have GT 3 sway bars- thats another 3-4 adjustments on each end, not to mention tire pressures...the combinations are almost endless. Most guys don't need it IMO, keep it as simple as possible on the street/track. I'll stick with the Porsche engineers on this point, unless it's all out racing then that's totally different.
08-05-2005, 10:35 PM
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I will say that the ride with PSS9s is very comfortable for a lowered suspension. This may be the most comfortable coilover I have experienced, but I like a tighter sportier feel. Mine is set at 4 and it seems little soft at low speeds, but tightens at higher speeds.
On my TT, the progression rate of the PSS9s seem like redbound and compression are softer or same as stock at low speeds, but tighter than stock at very high speed when piston speed increases. Will setting at 1 increase compression and rebound at lower speed without much of an increase in compression in rebound at higher speeds. I am hoping that the spring progression rates are not uniform for each setting and that lower the number below 4 will mainly effect low speed driving. I don't want the car to get twitchy feeling at very high speeds. Anyone know for sure.
On my TT, the progression rate of the PSS9s seem like redbound and compression are softer or same as stock at low speeds, but tighter than stock at very high speed when piston speed increases. Will setting at 1 increase compression and rebound at lower speed without much of an increase in compression in rebound at higher speeds. I am hoping that the spring progression rates are not uniform for each setting and that lower the number below 4 will mainly effect low speed driving. I don't want the car to get twitchy feeling at very high speeds. Anyone know for sure.
Last edited by Doug H; 08-06-2005 at 03:06 PM.
08-05-2005, 10:43 PM
#35
Originally Posted by DJ 996
The ride height can be adjusted anytime on a coilover with the turn of a wrench. The problem with PSS9s and the like, in most hands the adjustability is useless, granted there are quite a few guys on Rennlist with track experience and they know what they are doing. The vast majority of the bling crowd has no clue, that's why their cars cough and sputter trying to get down the track in one piece, and some have learned there is more to a GT2 than the ride height alone.
08-05-2005, 11:23 PM
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Dude, chill out. As I said in my post the guys on Rennlist, you included, are the exception. My observation comes from years of experience, in a misguided youth racing cars all over the country as Chris can attest to, I have driven and raced with various coilover systems- mostly Koni- and weight jack systems. I'm not condeming PSS9s, I just think most guys couldn't tell you the difference between loose and tight in a corner, and they don't need them IMO of course. I have not driven a PSS9 Porsche, maybe it's better maybe not, I like my RoW M030. No hard feelings.
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08-05-2005, 11:33 PM
#37
Doug, No worries...I'm actually quite cool for a change as the damn heat wave here in Colorado finally broke. The ROW looks great on your car and I'm glad you like it. It seems that neither one of us is actually capable of commenting on the other since we haven't driven it. You like yours and I like mine...all settled. Salute.
08-06-2005, 12:59 PM
#38
Three Wheelin'
some interesting observations... although most are happy with their ROW 030 systems I've heard a few people comment about low speed harshness.... hmmm,, didn't think there would be any with the ROW 030 but I guess there is some... I've also heard a p-car salesman tell me the same thing and I wasn't able to confirm it until reading comments on this forum.
08-06-2005, 01:09 PM
#39
My initial impression was of some harshness at low speed on patched city streets, but I seem to be getting acclimated to it. In my drive last night, I was noticing how well the shocks handle the low speed stiffness. The row 030 is damped very well.
