Okay, finally a pic of X74/M030 RoW hybrid suspension all settled in.
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Originally Posted by mjb2448
So whats left for the C4S Cab ? Heard that the X73 is for the coupe only and according to the dealer the M030 won't work either but Carnewal has a Euro M030 for Cab so please stop the madness on this final mod for me...somebody..anybody before Dennis gets here.
For instance, the x74 is designed by Porsche for the 02+ cars. It will "fit" the early 996s, but Porsche doesn't recommend it (I believe this is due to the cars being less torsionally rigid).
I think the same goes for x74 and x73 on cabrios (narrow and widebody). it'll bolt right up, but Porsche didn't tune it for the (relatively) flexy chassis, and therefore it isn't supported (nor my guess is it warranted).
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Thanks for clearing quite a bit up with the great explainations from all. So the onlt suspension from porsche for a 1999 996 is the M030??? Does everyone generally stick with Porsche suspension or is there an aftermarket company that makes it as good?
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Originally Posted by stiles_s
Were you concerned at all about the Bilsteins being tuned for the X74's progressive springs versus a linear rate? Have you driven your car and a ROWM030 car back to back? If so, what are your impressions?
Net: Why did you go w/the x74 shocks?
Net: Why did you go w/the x74 shocks?
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Originally Posted by siberian
Any idea who supplies the components? Could this be equated to ROW030=BILSTEIN SPORTS, X74=BILSTEIN HD? I may be way offbase... ![ducking](https://rennlist.com/forums/graemlins/icon107.gif)
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Originally Posted by ckl93
The X74 also fits pre '02 cars. I had it installed on my '01 C4 and I'm loving it. You can still bottom out though if you're not careful. I happen to hit a narrow unpaved section of road just right and the bottom scrapped a bit. You'll be amazed by the improved handling of the car.
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Originally Posted by stiles_s
but Porsche doesn't recommend it (I believe this is due to the cars being less torsionally rigid).
I think the same goes for x74 and x73 on cabrios (narrow and widebody). it'll bolt right up, but Porsche didn't tune it for the (relatively) flexy chassis, and therefore it isn't supported (nor my guess is it warranted).
I think the same goes for x74 and x73 on cabrios (narrow and widebody). it'll bolt right up, but Porsche didn't tune it for the (relatively) flexy chassis, and therefore it isn't supported (nor my guess is it warranted).
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Originally Posted by stiles_s
- I've heard reliable reports that the x74 shocks are the same thing as the Bilstein sports you can buy aftermarket. My guess, if this is true, is that Bilstein got permission from Porsche to use the valving they came up with for the x74 package and sell it as the Bilstein Sport (not the other way around).
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Carnewal is a good source for X73 / X74 kits although the Euro exchange rate has hurt prices. Good website to compare various suspensions and also some good writeups on X74 (see link on X74 C2 page).
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Was looking at the X73/4 kits recently on Carnewal and they were on sale. Euro has been down, relatively, in the past few weeks and I've been leaning more toward the X74s over the PSS9s esp after I saw Gert was running a sale (1600 eu vs 2000eu)
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My X73 came with very solid motor mounts, no bumper brace or sways, Braman Porsche and Suncoast are both selling X73 for 1799 usd, that's 1k off. Not sure about the x74.
One thing about the mounts, if you don't put them in, porsche won't warranty the parts according to the boys at braman, they are cosiderably stiffer than stock.
Either way, 030 or the X's, oem is the way to go, reanimator has come up with a good idea, imo.
One thing about the mounts, if you don't put them in, porsche won't warranty the parts according to the boys at braman, they are cosiderably stiffer than stock.
Either way, 030 or the X's, oem is the way to go, reanimator has come up with a good idea, imo.
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Originally Posted by Re-animator
An inch in front and about 3/4 of an inch in back. The RoW M030 springs are linear so I can count on consistent compression characteristics across the whole range of spring motion. I'm running 25 3/4" ground to center fender all the way around. ![Smilie](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif)
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Originally Posted by porch
Where did you source your parts?
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Originally Posted by siberian
Ok, I'm thoroughly confused now...
Could someone noodle me through as to the advantages the OEM set up has over Bilstein Sports or PSS9s?
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Could someone noodle me through as to the advantages the OEM set up has over Bilstein Sports or PSS9s?
Thanks
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