can 996 be dropped with just springs?
05-11-2005, 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Re-animator
According to a post from Alon who called Bilstein and discussed the topic with their technical department; the dampers in the after market Sport Bilsteins are valved exactly to the X74 dampers in compression and rebound which is 40% tighter than early C2 non-M030 dampers. They should match well to the increased weit of C4s since the H&R specific springs address the added weight as well. Perhaps Gert would know if there was a valving difference in X73 dampers vs. X74 kit dampers. 
05-11-2005, 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Re-animator
For C4S Coupe H&R part # 29466 with Bilstein Sports VN7-4613 and BE5-2994 are the ticket. These Bilsteins are technically specific to the X74 package. Check shox.com.
05-11-2005, 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Rasta
Thanks for the information Re-animator. As an FYI, it seems that shox.com doesn't stock the H&R springs. -
05-11-2005, 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Re-animator
tirerack has them for $310. Vividracing a little more. The H&R is a progressive spring, so street driving should be acceptable with bounciness noted on early model shocks. For '02 and latter cars, the front shocks are stiffer in rebound then the M030. Try just the H&Rs. I run M030 springs on my stock C2 shocks without bounciness. They seem to like the tighter spring more than the stock ones which are 24#s heavier than stock. The H&Rs are designed to match the stock shocks, but will cause the stockers to wear quicker secondary to the longer shaft of the damper operating 1.25"s deeper into the damper housing. shox.com can do the Sport Bilsteins for about $800 if you wish to pound the car. I am running them on my rear M030s and it has really transformed the vehicle.
06-06-2005, 04:23 PM
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Just out of curiousity...How big a job is it to change the springs/shocks?
Do the springs need to be compressed, or can you just take the whole thing out as a unit? Once removed, do the springs need to be compressed to be removed from the shock?
Do the springs need to be compressed, or can you just take the whole thing out as a unit? Once removed, do the springs need to be compressed to be removed from the shock?
06-06-2005, 04:37 PM
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Midnight - Here's my suggestion: Buy the Euro M030 for your car. Costs $1,200 including air frieght to your door (3 days). Lowers the car, improves the handling AND the ride, costs little and is all Porsche OEM parts. Kit includes shocks, springs, sway bars etc. This is the cheapest and one of the nicest upgrades for a 911. Check out www.carnewal.com
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06-06-2005, 06:28 PM
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Just out of curiousity...How big a job is it to change the springs/shocks?
Do the springs need to be compressed, or can you just take the whole thing out as a unit? Once removed, do the springs need to be compressed to be removed from the shock?
Do the springs need to be compressed, or can you just take the whole thing out as a unit? Once removed, do the springs need to be compressed to be removed from the shock?
06-06-2005, 10:30 PM
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I'm getting the H&R springs installed this week using the stock shocks on my C4 Cab. I'll report my findings after the install.This is a great thread,although we have opposing points of view on the topic. I had the same situation when I wanted to buy tires, lots of great input but very subjective. I decided on Potenza so2a's and I'm happy with my decision even though many people hated those tires. Anyway, that's what's great about this forum.
06-06-2005, 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Bob in NY
I'm getting the H&R springs installed this week using the stock shocks on my C4 Cab. I'll report my findings after the install.This is a great thread,although we have opposing points of view on the topic. I had the same situation when I wanted to buy tires, lots of great input but very subjective. I decided on Potenza so2a's and I'm happy with my decision even though many people hated those tires. Anyway, that's what's great about this forum.
06-07-2005, 12:30 AM
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gota911,
I have a lot of confidence in my local mechanic who is a Porsche expert mechanic and previously raced and set up track Porsches in Europe and locally. He has recommended this set up based on my driving style and desire to "tighten up" the handling a bit. I feel the car has a little float that I would like to harness. I don't track the car so my requirements are limited to some inprovement in handling and it will lower the car about 1.1 inches. I'm also getting the GHL mufflers installed for fun...
I have a lot of confidence in my local mechanic who is a Porsche expert mechanic and previously raced and set up track Porsches in Europe and locally. He has recommended this set up based on my driving style and desire to "tighten up" the handling a bit. I feel the car has a little float that I would like to harness. I don't track the car so my requirements are limited to some inprovement in handling and it will lower the car about 1.1 inches. I'm also getting the GHL mufflers installed for fun...
06-07-2005, 02:59 PM
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Do it right. Your stocks shocks are designed for longer travel with the stock springs. Get the Sports Shocks which are specifically designed for that short shock absorbtion and dampening and react properly to shorter springs.
06-07-2005, 11:22 PM
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which shocks???