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Joined: Apr 2004
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From: Huntington Beach, CA
The only way I care if a car's had paint work is if:
1. it's a concours car. But I wouldn't buy one of those anyway.
2. the paint work is/was shoddy.
Seriously, it's the real world. Cars are driven, stuff hits them. Sometimes, *ssholes even attack them on purpose.
As long as the work was done as well as at the factory, I don't care. In fact, some of the work I've had done is better than factory. My '87 Carrera had a full repaint, all glass/mouldings out, and it's as beautiful as any factory paint I've seen, and doesn't detract in the least from the value (IMO).
As far as bumper road rash is concerned, paint it!
1. it's a concours car. But I wouldn't buy one of those anyway.
2. the paint work is/was shoddy.
Seriously, it's the real world. Cars are driven, stuff hits them. Sometimes, *ssholes even attack them on purpose.
As long as the work was done as well as at the factory, I don't care. In fact, some of the work I've had done is better than factory. My '87 Carrera had a full repaint, all glass/mouldings out, and it's as beautiful as any factory paint I've seen, and doesn't detract in the least from the value (IMO).
As far as bumper road rash is concerned, paint it!
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How noticeable a film is on a car depends on two things:
1. installation quality
2. film quality
3. exposed edges
First of all, if the texture of the film has "orange peel" then, it will make it very noticeable on a darker colored vehicle. Films with noticeable texture is 3M, Clearshield, and Avery. As everyone already knows, black shows everything the most (scratches, swirls, etc.).
2nd, if the film is not installed properly, stretch marks, "dimples", dust and debris make the film very visible on dark colored vehicles.
3rd, how much gap is between the edge of panel and the film also creates a more visible look on darker colors. If the film is installed 1/16" to the edge, then it doesn't show up quite as much. Many of our installs wrap the edges of hoods & bumpers to create as seamless of an install as possible.
As any fad in an industry, many people will try to get in........unfortunately, this brings on many inexperienced installers to the market. Most of these installers have yet to perform high-quality results. Window tint is a good example. Most tint installations on the market are plagued with bubbles, fading, purpling, dust filled installs. This is no different in paint protection.
Again, quality of installation plus the quality of film is an important point in how the film looks on dark colored vehicles. Here are some up-close pics of black cars with wrapped edges:
Here are some up-close pics of our installs as examples. The first two pics are installs from a local competitor in which this customer had it redone 3 times before finding us. The first shows what "orange peel" texture is along with stretch marks. The following shows solid wrinkles on the film. Following that are some pics of our redo:
1. installation quality
2. film quality
3. exposed edges
First of all, if the texture of the film has "orange peel" then, it will make it very noticeable on a darker colored vehicle. Films with noticeable texture is 3M, Clearshield, and Avery. As everyone already knows, black shows everything the most (scratches, swirls, etc.).
2nd, if the film is not installed properly, stretch marks, "dimples", dust and debris make the film very visible on dark colored vehicles.
3rd, how much gap is between the edge of panel and the film also creates a more visible look on darker colors. If the film is installed 1/16" to the edge, then it doesn't show up quite as much. Many of our installs wrap the edges of hoods & bumpers to create as seamless of an install as possible.
As any fad in an industry, many people will try to get in........unfortunately, this brings on many inexperienced installers to the market. Most of these installers have yet to perform high-quality results. Window tint is a good example. Most tint installations on the market are plagued with bubbles, fading, purpling, dust filled installs. This is no different in paint protection.
Again, quality of installation plus the quality of film is an important point in how the film looks on dark colored vehicles. Here are some up-close pics of black cars with wrapped edges:
Here are some up-close pics of our installs as examples. The first two pics are installs from a local competitor in which this customer had it redone 3 times before finding us. The first shows what "orange peel" texture is along with stretch marks. The following shows solid wrinkles on the film. Following that are some pics of our redo:
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ClearGuard Alpha G2 PPF vs Suntek Reaction: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/6hmSaMsHFkw
SatinGuard PPF
Spectra PhotoSync IRD - Highest heat blocking window film in industry
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Checkout our Youtube Channel!
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Originally Posted by LVDell
Totally different Paul. The analogy you need to make is scotch guard on a sofa. Inivisible Protection.
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Had my first clear bra for over a year and never saw a scuff. This is one of those discussion like tyres. To each his own right? 
As for the clearbra, I like not seeing a single rock chip when my car is clean versus having my front bumper look like a bb gun went to town on it. Trust me, out here in Vegas where construction is just crazy you need it. Driving here is like driving thourhg a mine field of flying pebbles! Also, after those long road trips bugs, etc. just wife right off. Very easy to clean and maintain.
As for the clearbra, I like not seeing a single rock chip when my car is clean versus having my front bumper look like a bb gun went to town on it. Trust me, out here in Vegas where construction is just crazy you need it. Driving here is like driving thourhg a mine field of flying pebbles! Also, after those long road trips bugs, etc. just wife right off. Very easy to clean and maintain.
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This is just one of those products that either is or is not for an individual. However, from experience, we've noticed that SOME people against it have a good reason to dislike it........they've seen it and it didn't look good. How clear it looks really depends on the installation and quality of film.........Below are some pics of shoddy work..........believe it or not, this is the average standard. Keep in mind, these are high-end cars where the customers thought they were getting good installers..........crooked cut lines, orange peel, lifting of film w/ dirt getting underneath, air pockets, trapped debris, wrinkles, etc. Installation is the KEY and the quality of film only compliments a great install.