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should porsche offer a 100,000 mi warranty to 996 owners because of rms problems?

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Old 09-17-2004, 01:35 AM
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Default should porsche offer a 100,000 mi warranty to 996 owners because of rms problems?

over 40% of 996 owners here are affected. i love my 2002 c4s but i expect i'll trade it in before my warranty expires unless porsche acknowledges the magnitude of this design defect with an extended warranty. frankly, with their profit margin they can easily afford it.

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I'm out of warranty & running scared.......
Old 09-17-2004, 02:52 AM
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I say Yes, they should offer one.
Old 09-17-2004, 03:09 AM
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No they should not. They will get more money if you buy a 997 then keeping your 996.
Old 09-17-2004, 08:04 AM
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Hmmm..... let me think. Now that's a hard question for me to ask

Despite your intentions ingnacio, and your know without asking that I support your motives
wholeheartedly, but the statititions on this board will have a field day with this poll.
Old 09-17-2004, 09:23 AM
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They should not.

What they should do is to give us parts that worth the price.
Old 09-17-2004, 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by ZBlue996Kam
They should not.

What they should do is to give us parts that worth the price.
What if I don't need parts?
Old 09-17-2004, 10:08 AM
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What I mean is that Porsche should provide us with a car that is assembled with well designed parts that don't have obvious issues like the RMS, coolant tank crack, potential oil starvation when driven with slick tires on the track, sun roof and interior rattles, .........
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These warranties and how the manufacturer's have to carry the risk on their books is tricky.

For example: Pcar could give a 100,000 mi non transferrable warranty or 3 years, whichever comes first. This warranty would be virtually worthless to owners, but PAG wouldn't have to reserve($) much.

I think a limited componant warranty for seals (to include rms) for 100,000 mi that is transferrable would be fair to both owners & PAG. The reserves PAG would have to set aside could be assessed & projected from the 4 years 997 experience.

How to force them to do that ? I think persuading state Attorney Generals - that this is a widespread problem that the buying public needs disclosed to them prior to vehicle sale (or the sale can be recinded).

What do you think.....
Old 09-17-2004, 12:23 PM
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Berny....
Old 09-17-2004, 12:27 PM
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YAWN! Where did you get your 40% number?

Sure it would be nice...gee, that would make my car under warranty until ..well, forever!
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BMW extended the engine warranty to 6 years 100,000 miles on the E46 M3. In my opinion, a large (if not primary) catalyst was the furor created by the forum members of Roadfly. Threads like this one is how it all started.
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I said no.......and the reason is that I don't think it should stop at 100K. I think they should warranty the RMS for the life of the engine. Even though Porsche has instituted a "fix" for the RMS problem, no one knows if it is going to work long term-not even Porsche. What happens if all these "improved" seals start to leak again at 125K miles? Should that be the owner's problem? I don't think so. This is a design/manufacturing defect that Porsche needs to permanently stand behind.
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Originally Posted by MJM
BMW extended the engine warranty to 6 years 100,000 miles on the E46 M3. In my opinion, a large (if not primary) catalyst was the furor created by the forum members of Roadfly. Threads like this one is how it all started.
No offense, but there is a huge difference between the entire engine self-destructing and a minor oil leak that is annoying and could be somewhat costly. Also, although common, I do not think that the RMS issue is as widespread as complaining about it on boards might suggest. Perhaps a solution would be to warranty RMS repairs for the same length as the original warranty. As such, for cars that have had no RMS issues, then the warranty extension would have no effect. When an RMS leak is repaired, the repair -- not the entire engine -- would be warrantied for 4 years or whatever the stock warranty is.
Just my two cents.
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I too am concerned at what happens after my extended warranty runs out


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