Numeric shifter V2.0
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Numeric shifter V2.0
Anyone with the original Numeric Racing shifter upgraded to the new version 2.0 with the self-centering spring? I have the original.....wondering if it's worth upgrading to 2.0 with the spring, or if I'm just overthinking it. 
https://flat6motorsports.com/collect...ow-shifter-996
https://flat6motorsports.com/collect...ow-shifter-996
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I have the V2 with the centering spring and installed it as such. There is an option to remove the spring upon installation, so it behaves exactly like a V1 non-centering spring option, but I haven’t done that. As such, I can’t compare the differences between using and not using a centering spring.
I can say that I do like my shifter with the centering spring. It certainly made cable alignment, during installation, easier. On the other hand, I had to trim a bit of plastic on the cable end (which attaches to the bottom of the shift lever), because the protrusion from the centering spring interfered with the cable end’s motion of travel.
In terms of shift quality: there is a noticeable bit of additional resistance when moving the lever from side to side. Shifting from 4th to 5th, or from 3rd to 2nd, requires a teensy bit more effort. The centering effect makes 2nd to 3rd very easy.
As I’m typing this out, I wonder if I may be happier with the centering spring removed. I think it would minimize the inconsistency I feel between shift directions. However, I also don’t find it enough of an annoyance to make me want to remove my center console to test.
I can say that I do like my shifter with the centering spring. It certainly made cable alignment, during installation, easier. On the other hand, I had to trim a bit of plastic on the cable end (which attaches to the bottom of the shift lever), because the protrusion from the centering spring interfered with the cable end’s motion of travel.
In terms of shift quality: there is a noticeable bit of additional resistance when moving the lever from side to side. Shifting from 4th to 5th, or from 3rd to 2nd, requires a teensy bit more effort. The centering effect makes 2nd to 3rd very easy.
As I’m typing this out, I wonder if I may be happier with the centering spring removed. I think it would minimize the inconsistency I feel between shift directions. However, I also don’t find it enough of an annoyance to make me want to remove my center console to test.
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I have the V2 with the centering spring and installed it as such. There is an option to remove the spring upon installation, so it behaves exactly like a V1 non-centering spring option, but I haven’t done that. As such, I can’t compare the differences between using and not using a centering spring.
I can say that I do like my shifter with the centering spring. It certainly made cable alignment, during installation, easier. On the other hand, I had to trim a bit of plastic on the cable end (which attaches to the bottom of the shift lever), because the protrusion from the centering spring interfered with the cable end’s motion of travel.
In terms of shift quality: there is a noticeable bit of additional resistance when moving the lever from side to side. Shifting from 4th to 5th, or from 3rd to 2nd, requires a teensy bit more effort. The centering effect makes 2nd to 3rd very easy.
As I’m typing this out, I wonder if I may be happier with the centering spring removed. I think it would minimize the inconsistency I feel between shift directions. However, I also don’t find it enough of an annoyance to make me want to remove my center console to test.
I can say that I do like my shifter with the centering spring. It certainly made cable alignment, during installation, easier. On the other hand, I had to trim a bit of plastic on the cable end (which attaches to the bottom of the shift lever), because the protrusion from the centering spring interfered with the cable end’s motion of travel.
In terms of shift quality: there is a noticeable bit of additional resistance when moving the lever from side to side. Shifting from 4th to 5th, or from 3rd to 2nd, requires a teensy bit more effort. The centering effect makes 2nd to 3rd very easy.
As I’m typing this out, I wonder if I may be happier with the centering spring removed. I think it would minimize the inconsistency I feel between shift directions. However, I also don’t find it enough of an annoyance to make me want to remove my center console to test.
Awesome, thanks for the well articulated insight. I'm going to keep my original for now!
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I just ordered mine. I'll provide a report after install.
I'm just wondering for those that have self installed the Numeric, did you keep the cover that has the clips to hold the window controls or did you ditch that cover? If you kept it, how did you secure it?
I'm just wondering for those that have self installed the Numeric, did you keep the cover that has the clips to hold the window controls or did you ditch that cover? If you kept it, how did you secure it?
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Mine also returns to the center, but its very slow. I really have to focus when going from 5th to 4th for example — by inertia the shifter just goes into 6th — centering is too weak.
I tried lubricating the pulleys on the gearbox casing but no bueno.
I tried lubricating the pulleys on the gearbox casing but no bueno.
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You probably have a malfunctioning cable. The only way to find out is to remove your center console, detach the offending cable, and check the resistance of the shifter during lateral movement. You could also move the detached cable back and forth with your hand and gauge its resistance. Do the same with the fore-aft cable (detached) to check whether they’re similar or not.
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You probably have a malfunctioning cable. The only way to find out is to remove your center console, detach the offending cable, and check the resistance of the shifter during lateral movement. You could also move the detached cable back and forth with your hand and gauge its resistance. Do the same with the fore-aft cable (detached) to check whether they’re similar or not.
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Replaced the B&M clone SSK with the Numeric V2. Although the throws have remained relatively the same, the Numeric took out all the slop from the previous short shifter. For example, when in gear, the B&M clone had almost as much side to side play as when in neutral. There is minimal side to side play with the Numeric when in gear. Shifting effort is actually easier (I don't have any experience with a stock 996 manual shifter so I'm comparing it with the B&M clone), however, you still have to shift on purpose. The shifting is also more precise. With the previous shifter, going from 2nd to 3rd sometimes requires a bit of a reset if it hesitates going into 3rd. All in all, I'm happy with the purchase. The only tip I have is if you are installing on a carpeted tunnel, it will be tight fit getting the back of the Numeric into the posts. A little persuasion with a rubber mallet did the trick for me. I did not cut any carpet. Also, while I had the seat heater controls off, I fished out the Porsche Telephone connector to make it easier for me to attach the Rennclassic USB fast charging module when it comes in.
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B&M short shifter clone versus Numeric V2 after installation. This video somewhat shows the self centering function of the Numeric. Numeric V2
https://youtu.be/1UWXJ1jyRsQ?feature=shared
https://youtu.be/1UWXJ1jyRsQ?feature=shared
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I have it on the middle setting. Also, the shifter it replaced is not OEM. It's a generic short shifter (probably from eBay) that was on the car when I got it. One of the circlips holding the bushing fell off which allowed the bushing and rod to fall of the back of the shifter (luckily, I wasn't driving when it happened). This is why I switched it out for a Numeric.