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Old 07-04-2023, 12:42 AM
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Default Brake Caliper leak, damaged bleeder threads

My car: 2004 C4S 6MT
So my left rear bleeder valve (inside) has leaked in the past after I got the car. I had tightened it down a little, and that had seemed to help, but this weekend (when going in to replace the brake lines), I realized that the bleeder was still leaking, but probably only when at full pressure while braking.
So, took the caliper completely off, then removed the bleeder valves. (I have brand-new valves that I was going to put on.) However, the threads for the inside bleeder valve are completely trashed!!! I have a thread-chaser (not a tap), but there are no good threads to even get it started. There may be good threads deeper in, but I can't get anything started without chewing them up worse.

So, do I now have to buy a new caliper? Given that it's a hydraulic seal, this isn't an area where thread repair will work. Is there another solution that I'm missing?

My car: 2004 C4S 6MT, so I think the part number is 996-352-425 (Left Rear caliper)
Will this part number (for C4S and Turbo) always be red? I don't have to worry about that, right?

I've found one new for about $700, or used and questionable looking for $390. Does this sound about right? Any good deals anyone knows about?

Thanks!

EDIT: corrected that it's the Left Rear, not the right rear

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Old 07-04-2023, 01:20 AM
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These work fine

https://www.autozone.com/brakes-and-...-kit/83105_0_0
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Old 07-04-2023, 01:32 AM
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I suppose it can't hurt to try. Thanks!
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Originally Posted by jdbornem
I suppose it can't hurt to try. Thanks!
I broke off a bleeder screw and destroyed the threads getting it out.

7/16 drill and 1/4npt tap.
Your rear calipers are my fronts.
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Originally Posted by hbdunn
I broke off a bleeder screw and destroyed the threads getting it out.

7/16 drill and 1/4npt tap.
Your rear calipers are my fronts.
Well, I ordered the needed parts/tools, we'll see what happens. Thanks.
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Remember its not the treads on a bleader screw that make the seal its the interfereance fit of the tapper at the bottom the screw to the caliper. Just be carefull to not go too deep making the repair
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Originally Posted by De Jeeper
Remember its not the treads on a bleader screw that make the seal its the interfereance fit of the tapper at the bottom the screw to the caliper. Just be carefull to not go too deep making the repair
Actually the repair kit provides a new seat for a smaller screw. I think drilled down a half an inch. I also removed the pistons on that side to make sure no debris was inside the caliper.

What it looks like installed





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Almost time for some new rotors there good buddy.
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Ah, didnt look at the link. Looks like simple repair with the correct tools.
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Hi, the kit from Autozone that you used contained 2 sets of seat & bleeder screw of different sizes. Did you use the larger set ? If so, what size drill and tap did you use for that seat/scree combo ? I am facing the same repair right now on 2002 996 Targa so any details you have would be great... thanks
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Originally Posted by emflo88
Hi, the kit from Autozone that you used contained 2 sets of seat & bleeder screw of different sizes. Did you use the larger set ? If so, what size drill and tap did you use for that seat/scree combo ? I am facing the same repair right now on 2002 996 Targa so any details you have would be great... thanks
It looks like I bought this:
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So a 7/16 drill and a 1/4 NPT tap.

I did have one issue that I only drilled down about 1/2 and inch or so, you don't want to damage the bottom of the hole, which is the sealing surface. Then, the 1/4 tap is also tapered, and starts out fairly narrow. So initially it only cut very shallow threads before i bottomed out in the hole. So I then had to cut the tap shorter (using my Dremel), in order to use a wider part of the tap, so it would actually cut full threads. It was kind of a mess. But, eventually, I got good threads, and the Dorman kit linked here worked. No leaks yet in over a year.
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Originally Posted by jdbornem
It looks like I bought this:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01MDV3A30
So a 7/16 drill and a 1/4 NPT tap.

I did have one issue that I only drilled down about 1/2 and inch or so, you don't want to damage the bottom of the hole, which is the sealing surface. Then, the 1/4 tap is also tapered, and starts out fairly narrow. So initially it only cut very shallow threads before i bottomed out in the hole. So I then had to cut the tap shorter (using my Dremel), in order to use a wider part of the tap, so it would actually cut full threads. It was kind of a mess. But, eventually, I got good threads, and the Dorman kit linked here worked. No leaks yet in over a year.
Happy my advice worked for at least one person!

Yes that’s the tap and drill bit for the large one.

With bleeding brakes after every track event I’ve opened and closed it maybe 30 times with no leaks.

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Originally Posted by hbdunn
Happy my advice worked for at least one person!

Yes that’s the tap and drill bit for the large one.

With bleeding brakes after every track event I’ve opened and closed it maybe 30 times with no leaks.
thank you so much for the extra details. I’m about to try it in the next week. I’ve bought the repair kit and the drill/npt set is enroute. Wish me luck.

did u drill with the caliper attached, or did you remove the caliper to drill ?
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Originally Posted by emflo88
thank you so much for the extra details. I’m about to try it in the next week. I’ve bought the repair kit and the drill/npt set is enroute. Wish me luck.

did u drill with the caliper attached, or did you remove the caliper to drill ?
I removed the caliper and the pistons on that side so I could make sure no metal filings were in there. I drilled the 7/16 hole all the way through.
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For the tap they make different styles. Most taps that u see r "starting" taps but for tapping into a closed hole u want to look for an "end" tap. Having both taps will make the job easier.
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