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Old 07-12-2022, 10:13 PM
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Default 996 Turbo X50 conundrum

So I have a 2004 Turbo cabriolet X50 with PCCB’s.
Looks like the 2005 Turbo S cab is well over $100k now

my question is how can my car be worth half of the Turbo S? Isnt it essentially the exact same car… with similar rarity?

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Old 07-12-2022, 10:48 PM
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If you don't get an answer, go to the Prices thread from Optionman. Alot of talk on production numbers.
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Originally Posted by ldmclain
my question is how can my car be worth half of the Turbo S?
The headlights.
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who said it's worth half?

sport technos are worth their weight in gold
Old 07-13-2022, 10:08 AM
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3k turbo cabs produced vs only 1k turbo S cabs, but with the factory X50 and PCCB I would happily own yours at any discount. Coupes will always command a premium vs cabs but X50 vs turbo S in a cab would make no difference to me.
Old 07-13-2022, 10:11 AM
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In 2 days you will be getting another data point (sans PCCB):

https://www.pcarmarket.com/auction/2...911-turbo-x50/
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Bifurcated market prices that don't make fundamental sense. Good time to go long 996 Turbo x50 and short Turbo S. Call it 996 arbitrage.
Old 07-13-2022, 03:20 PM
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My guess is the car is worth more than half of a Turbo S. I also think this is a good example of where marketing and buyer knowledge can make a big difference. Right now there is a huge influx of 996 buyers that are buying the car because it is the cheapest 911, a "good buy" according to a lot of the car groups out there, they grew up liking them and now have the money, etc. And the "S" means something to everybody. Like even if you know absolutely nothing about cars you see that little "S" and you are like oh that ones better. Where as if someone tells you this car has an X51 package, most people are going to have no idea what that means. Beyond a lack of understanding I think you are going to have a group of people that want that S badge just to impress their friends.

Also, for what its worth, in 1988 they offered a 944 Turbo S and outside of special editions it is the most valuable 944. In 1989 all 944 Turbos were S spec, but not badged or designated as such, and they command a lower premium. People pay for badging.
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As an owner of a real 1988 944 turbo S there are subtle differences but the 89s did get much of the goodies
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Also there us was no 996.1 C2S
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Milage, condition, and pedigree factor in to an eye-popping price. Not trying to be a ***** but to say a "2005 Turbo S cab is well over $100k now" is only going to be true about a low-mile, one-ish owner, 9.5/10 condition car. If your car is a very similar condition to the $100k car then I'd say you could expect to see $65,000 maybe even $75,000 with the right buyer and market. Jury is still out on whether the feeding frenzy is over or still kind of churning.

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Might get more mileage posting on the 996 turbo thread! But basically, things are worth what people are willing to pay. Rarity is a big factor!
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Originally Posted by Optionman1
In 2 days you will be getting another data point (sans PCCB):

https://www.pcarmarket.com/auction/2...911-turbo-x50/

Bad wheels on that one
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Originally Posted by GC996
Bifurcated market prices that don't make fundamental sense. Good time to go long 996 Turbo x50 and short Turbo S. Call it 996 arbitrage.

it seems there is zero difference in an X50 with PCCB’s versus a Turbo S

maybe suspension?



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