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i'm going to be upgrading my 996 cab.
does anyone know if it is still possible to order a GT2 new? it has been taken off the Porsche Australia website.
should i get a GT2 or lambo gallardo?
is the carrera GT considered a 911?
any thoughts..
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chucksta
does anyone know if it is still possible to order a GT2 new? it has been taken off the Porsche Australia website.
should i get a GT2 or lambo gallardo?
is the carrera GT considered a 911?
any thoughts..
thanks in advance
chucksta
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I hear you can get smoking deals on those Lambo's
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Originally posted by ericdee
I hear you can get smoking deals on those Lambo's
I hear you can get smoking deals on those Lambo's
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Not in Oz you wont
They sell about 1 a year......
Carrera GT is not available for purchase in Australia and if the GT 2 is no longer available (which I would be surprised if that is the case) then the Lambo is the only option you have
Not my cup of tea but each to their own.
I would rather buy a GT3 and keep the 996 Cab that you already have and you will still have change left over. What more could you ask for. Even if you upgraded the 996 Cab to a turbo cab and a GT3 you will still have change!(Maybe I stretched the truth there a bit but nice garage
) Plenty of choice but as you can see I would stick with the Porsche cars
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Carrera GT is not available for purchase in Australia and if the GT 2 is no longer available (which I would be surprised if that is the case) then the Lambo is the only option you have
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I would rather buy a GT3 and keep the 996 Cab that you already have and you will still have change left over. What more could you ask for. Even if you upgraded the 996 Cab to a turbo cab and a GT3 you will still have change!(Maybe I stretched the truth there a bit but nice garage
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yeah..they seem to be available everywhere. i dont understand.
yeah..they seem to be available everywhere. i dont understand.
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That's just because they decided not to artificially screw up the market and are actually giving people what they want. A Ferrari 360 costs more used than it does new, because Ferrari plays those games.
It's all just business models and techniques.
That's just because they decided not to artificially screw up the market and are actually giving people what they want. A Ferrari 360 costs more used than it does new, because Ferrari plays those games.
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Originally posted by matterhorn762
That's just because they decided not to artificially screw up the market and are actually giving people what they want. A Ferrari 360 costs more used than it does new, because Ferrari plays those games.
It's all just business models and techniques.
That's just because they decided not to artificially screw up the market and are actually giving people what they want. A Ferrari 360 costs more used than it does new, because Ferrari plays those games.
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Originally posted by Viken
What games are those? A Ferrari 360 happens to be much more desirable than a Gallardo. If people are willing to pay more for a given pre-owned 360, what does Ferrari have to do with it?
What games are those? A Ferrari 360 happens to be much more desirable than a Gallardo. If people are willing to pay more for a given pre-owned 360, what does Ferrari have to do with it?
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Originally posted by matterhorn762
Ferrari makes it so you have to wait 2-3 years to order one of their cars. This is not because they don't make them fast enough... they just make you wait anyway.
Ferrari makes it so you have to wait 2-3 years to order one of their cars. This is not because they don't make them fast enough... they just make you wait anyway.
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You're right... the demand for the 360 is large and so it should be since it is such an amazing car. But the problem is the tactics. The MSRP is too low for the demand and Ferrari knows this. MSRP is below what the car is actually worth because of *natural* supply/demand. What this does is force people to pay more for a used car than the MSRP on a new car. In the United States when a producer forces false prices that do not match the supply/demand, then that is called an unfair market. Whether you personally think it's fair or not is not the point I was making.
If it was a simple case of high demand for an exclusive car, then the car's cost would reflect that demand. But it doesn't... which is the somewhat "bent" business practice. But if that's what Ferrari wants to do... I'm certainly not going to lose sleep over it.
You're right that the 360 is the largest volume Ferrari ever produced... so why is it also the most difficult production Ferrari to buy? Does this make sense to you? They made a lot less 348s when they were new, but it wasn't hard to buy a new one ten years ago. It has nothing to do with "rarity" and everything to do with market games.
If it was a simple case of high demand for an exclusive car, then the car's cost would reflect that demand. But it doesn't... which is the somewhat "bent" business practice. But if that's what Ferrari wants to do... I'm certainly not going to lose sleep over it.
You're right that the 360 is the largest volume Ferrari ever produced... so why is it also the most difficult production Ferrari to buy? Does this make sense to you? They made a lot less 348s when they were new, but it wasn't hard to buy a new one ten years ago. It has nothing to do with "rarity" and everything to do with market games.
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He is correct about Ferrari. They dont play games. The long wait lists are only in the US, the 360 is much easier to get in the rest of the world. If they raised the price here just because the car was really popular they would have to raise it around the world which would cause a large loss of sales. And if they only raised the price in the US there would be a huge grey market for the car. The 300 series F-car has always had a certain price bracket in the Ferrari line up and that will stay the same even if deman ids very high for specific model (360). I paid over $200K for a new 2004 360 F1 coupe and yes I waited on the list and didnt mind a bit. I still have more fun my porsche since I can drive it and park it. The Ferrari is a point A back to point A car. The P-car is a better car all around and the turbo with the X50 will smoke the 360. But the Ferrari 360 is the best looking car ever built. IMO
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I don't mean to contradict but I watched a very detailed documentary about the beginnings of Ferrari and it clearly stated that Mr. Enzo loved to make important people wait for his cars and if he didn't like the way people reacted to waiting he would cancel their order. Ferrari had/has a production rule that is always make less cars than you can sell. This is pretty much known, it's not a rumor or a myth more like common knowledge.
Just walk into any Ferrari dealership and ask them, does Ferrari makes less cars then it can sell? and they will say yes, and those are 'games'.
Just walk into any Ferrari dealership and ask them, does Ferrari makes less cars then it can sell? and they will say yes, and those are 'games'.
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Mr. Enzo loved to make important people wait for his cars and if he didn't like the way people reacted to waiting he would cancel their order.
Mr. Enzo loved to make important people wait for his cars and if he didn't like the way people reacted to waiting he would cancel their order.
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Originally posted by Keyvan
Just walk into any Ferrari dealership and ask them, does Ferrari makes less cars then it can sell? and they will say yes, and those are 'games'.
Just walk into any Ferrari dealership and ask them, does Ferrari makes less cars then it can sell? and they will say yes, and those are 'games'.