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Old 01-30-2022, 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Lady Silver
The one removed from my 2003 C4S last week had that number ending in 401, with no "GERMANY" marking.
Did you have to split the block?

From what I can gather the large center nut is supposed to 22mm. Which means its an M97 engine IMS bearing that was improved upon. You have to split the case to change it out, but the good news is that these don't go bad.

Does anyone have any insight into these IMS bearings?
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I put metal HVAC tape over all the holes and cylinders. Hoping the adhesive doesn't eat the aluminum.



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Old 01-30-2022, 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by keviha
I'm subscribing to this thread! Kudos to OP for making lemonade out of lemons with decision to go short block route. Good luck!
Thank you. I really do hate this car.
Old 01-30-2022, 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Eurocarguy911
Did you have to split the block?

From what I can gather the large center nut is supposed to 22mm. Which means its an M97 engine IMS bearing that was improved upon. You have to split the case to change it out, but the good news is that these don't go bad.

Does anyone have any insight into these IMS bearings?
Negative on splitting the block. Remove the three bolts and out it came. M96 engine.

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Old 01-30-2022, 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Eurocarguy911
So I guess this is a good IMS bearing? 99602406

Yes! I think you are good to go! I wouldn’t touch it unless you need to split the case, then I would install a LN Solution.
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Originally Posted by Lady Silver
Negative on splitting the block. Remove the three bolts and out it came. M96 engine.
Negative. The new engines use the unservicable 997 IMS bearing which does not seem to fail and cannot be removed without splitting the case.

Eurocarguy that aluminum tape will be fine. If there is adhesive left on the surfaces when you get around to removing it, just use a little kerosene on a rag to wipe the adhesive off.
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Old 01-30-2022, 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Eurocarguy911
Thank you. I really do hate this car.
Ha! You have a funny way of showing it! In all seriousness....I totally get it.

With that said, and not knowing you...in reviewing this thread (and original) it would seem you're not one to easily give up...like working on cars (beyond basic maintenance) ...and enjoy a challenge? If that's the case, this (unfortunate) situation checks the boxes! So does that mean somewhere deep inside you're actually looking forward to going through this journey over the next 6 months or so?

Like many others, I'm looking forward to learning more about your engine build journey. Because some of us may be closer to a similar decision than we know or want to know!

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Originally Posted by keviha
Ha! You have a funny way of showing it! In all seriousness....I totally get it.

With that said, and not knowing you...in reviewing this thread (and original) it would seem you're not one to easily give up...like working on cars (beyond basic maintenance) ...and enjoy a challenge? If that's the case, this (unfortunate) situation checks the boxes! So does that mean somewhere deep inside you're actually looking forward to going through this journey over the next 6 months or so?

Like many others, I'm looking forward to learning more about your engine build journey. Because some of us may be closer to a similar decision than we know or want to know!
I like cars. I like German cars, specifically Mercedes-Benz. Drove some amazing cars over the years. When I stepped into this Porsche world I thought I could pull it off and was aware of the risks. How bad could it be?

I had no idea I would not be able to drive the car while working on it. It's been stunningly expensive and completely unreliable. It's a classic previous owner knowing what he has and passing it off to next unsuspecting person.

The thought was to get rid of it, but there were no serious offers and the suggestion of it's worth $7 to $10K was really unappealing. I've got $30K + into it. Walking away from that much investment didn't make any sense.

I think I could be working on my home. I think about what the rest of the fleet needs in terms of repair. There is a lot of things I can do with my time. I'm picking up a part time gig this summer to pay for the engine. This is really not fun.

The parts to rebuild the heads alone from FCP is more than $5K. There is a staggering amount of money to spent here and I just picked up the block. For what I have into this I could have several Mercedes SL convertibles. They run and are cheap to maintain. Run away from the 996.

Be encouraged folks.
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Have u looked at Hoffman to recon the heads or Porschetec, Skip, has a guy that does these heads too. $5k seams way out of line?
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Originally Posted by De Jeeper
Have u looked at Hoffman to recon the heads or Porschetec, Skip, has a guy that does these heads too. $5k seams way out of line?
$5K is all the parts. It's a kit. https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/por...ylhdrebuildkt2 Seems like it has everything you'd ever need.

I've got an email into Hoffman. Checking prices there. It's the weekend so I would expect to hear back from them next week.

Skip is at Porschetec?
I am open to options and discussion.

Thank you!
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https://www.porschepartsnow.com/oem-...6l-996100996ux

$8,700
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Mind if I pm you to inquire about hteprice of your short block?
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Old 01-30-2022, 09:31 PM
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That’s a 3.6 block
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Didn’t realize the expense on the intake followers were on the vario cam plus engines.
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Originally Posted by Mpfaff
Didn’t realize the expense on the intake followers were on the vario cam plus engines.
The lifters are about $900 less from LN
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