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Old Nov 26, 2020 | 12:38 AM
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​​​​​i did a quick search but could not find my answer. With the t-day sales im buying a few things for my car and i will need some specialty tools. First i plan on replacing my rms. I know u can make a tool with pvc but i was hoping to find a reasonably priced accurate tool. I found this one but u have to hammer on the seal not pull it on with bolts. Not sure if this is an issue?

http://www.cheetahonline.com/products-page/custom-work/rsmtool/

the next item is replacing a couple chains and a bunch of pads. I plan on doing the variocam pads and because its a 5 chain i think i have to pull the assembly. Even if i do not i have to lock the cams. Im not sure if i need cam hold downs too. Is there a resonable kit for this or a rental? There are some out of stock kits like this but this company shows having them in stock.

https://www.eaccarab.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=133673

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Old Nov 26, 2020 | 08:44 AM
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I tried the Cheetah online, I don’t think the company is open anymore. SIR Tools makes a nice one but all the places that had it listed were out of stock. I found the one above on eBay that worked great. It’s been 3 months and a little over 1K miles since I replaced with the newest Porsche brand seal and no leaks. The only problem was it took almost 2 weeks longer to receive than listed. My seal was leaking and obviously not installed evenly. I tried making a PVC one while waiting for the one eBay but didn’t have any luck.
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Old Nov 26, 2020 | 08:53 AM
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I purchased the LN Engineering IMS Pro tool kit. It has 2 cam locks, one for 5 chain and one for 3 chain. They are used externally. They are pretty simple you might be able to find them separately or even fabricate with a saw and grinder. I think the one you linked hold the cam when you take the heads off.

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Old Nov 26, 2020 | 09:15 AM
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In 20 years of wrenching on Ferrari and Porsche, I have never needed a RMS installation tool. I use a hammer and a block of wood. Never a leak, ever.
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Old Nov 26, 2020 | 09:24 AM
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See here... https://rennlist.com/forums/parts-ma...-for-rent.html PM me if interested -
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Old Nov 26, 2020 | 09:56 AM
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i figured u had some for rent. I tried to get the trans mount tool but it was already out.

gonna be at least a month at least before.i pull the motor but ill save your rental thread.


one additional question. Do u need the cam hold downs to change the variocam pads on a 5 chain? I know if u have pull them i may need left hand thread allthread to compress, just dont know if the valve cover has to come off too.
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In 20 years of wrenching on Ferrari and Porsche, I have never needed a RMS installation tool. I use a hammer and a block of wood. Never a leak, ever.
The 996 crankshaft sticks out so you need something else than a 2x4. I used a peanut butter jar lid, drilled 4 holes and used the flywheel bolts to get the seal in the right place. Cost was $0 but took a little time to drill the 4 holes in the plastic lid.
As for the crankshaft locking tool, one small block chevy pushrod is an exact fit. I had one laying around but you can get one for free from any speed shop if you ask. To hold down the camshafts, I used some 3/4" hardwood pieces and drilled holes in them to hold the camshaft down and to lock them while removing the valve cover on a 5 chain engine, I made a contraption that works like the locking tool from thin angle iron and some bolts. So as you can see, if there is a will but don't want to spend money, there is a way! I used these tools twice to take my engine apart.
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Originally Posted by yelcab
In 20 years of wrenching on Ferrari and Porsche, I have never needed a RMS installation tool. I use a hammer and a block of wood. Never a leak, ever.

well i have very few records on my car but i can see that the rms as already done twice in the last 20k. I really want to see if i can get it square. It might just be a 200k miles it wont seal but i want to give it my best effort.


i was just hoping to find tools under $100 becsuse thats my mental breaking point for making something. I do have a mill and a lathe but im not all that great of a machinist and it will probably take a few hours for me yo make something. Has anyone found a dimensional drawings?
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If you have access to a 3D printer, here's the STL file for RMS install tool I designed for my rebuild. Had to change the file extension to get to upload, so it needs to be changed from .txt back to .stl before opening.
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Originally Posted by De Jeeper
well i have very few records on my car but i can see that the rms as already done twice in the last 20k. I really want to see if i can get it square. It might just be a 200k miles it wont seal but i want to give it my best effort.


i was just hoping to find tools under $100 becsuse thats my mental breaking point for making something. I do have a mill and a lathe but im not all that great of a machinist and it will probably take a few hours for me yo make something. Has anyone found a dimensional drawings?
Dude! Peanut butter jar lid with 4 holes is all you need. Use the flywheel as a guide to get the holes where they need to be.
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If you have access to a 3D printer, here's the STL file for RMS install tool I designed for my rebuild. Had to change the file extension to get to upload, so it needs to be changed from .txt back to .stl before opening.

I do not but the file is good have if i need someone to build one

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Dude! Peanut butter jar lid with 4 holes is all you need. Use the flywheel as a guide to get the holes where they need to be.
but the wife would be pissed about the open jar

I can pick up a raw round hdpe cut off for a couple bucks at a local supply and practice my machining


i may buy this. Its priced right but looks like it ships from over the pond. Luckily i have some time if i have to wait for it.




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I do not but the file is good have if i need someone to build one



but the wife would be pissed about the open jar

I can pick up a raw round hdpe cut off for a couple bucks at a local supply and practice my machining


i may buy this. Its priced right but looks like it ships from over the pond. Luckily i have some time if i have to wait for it.


I have a cam lock set you can borrow if needed. Just pay shipping and a deposit for the cost of the tool. I also have an RMS tool.
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Old Nov 27, 2020 | 08:26 PM
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I have a cam lock set you can borrow if needed. Just pay shipping and a deposit for the cost of the tool. I also have an RMS tool.

thx but im betting its cheaper to buy the tools then ship from u .

actually i did buy the 9products cam lock. It was $75 shipped from finland, i also bought a cheap cam hold down kit. I guess i really like owning my own tools. For the rms im gonna make one. It will be easy enough on the lathe or from a peanut butter jar lid.
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