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Old 05-31-2019, 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by mrfeh
The place that did the PPI, and I assume will be replacing the AOS, is Loudoun County Exotics:

https://www.locoexotics.com/
Lol, they are a young company, my son has dealt with them and spoke highly of them. They should have the tech equipment to service and diagnose an older Porsche one would think...
He's in the area if you need a set of eyes on it.
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Originally Posted by mrfeh
Price was $200
^^Yup...exactly what I figured. Basically the mechanic did a quick visual "once over" and noted the most obvious stuff that jumped out at him. Once again, you got what you paid for, not a proper "PPI" which would cost you closer to $1k (most likely around $750). Please don't take this as an attack on you - it's not. More-so on the "mechanic" that sees dollar signs, and makes $200 for a 1/2 hr. of his time (sounds more like lawyers rates to me). The problem is, you get "peace of mind" and think everything is great, when in reality there very well could be some serious problems lurking (like that simple AOS leak - if your AOS goes south while you're driving it may well do serious damage to your engine).
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Originally Posted by dporto
^^Yup...exactly what I figured. Basically the mechanic did a quick visual "once over" and noted the most obvious stuff that jumped out at him. Once again, you got what you paid for, not a proper "PPI" which would cost you closer to $1k (most likely around $750). Please don't take this as an attack on you - it's not. More-so on the "mechanic" that sees dollar signs, and makes $200 for a 1/2 hr. of his time (sounds more like lawyers rates to me). The problem is, you get "peace of mind" and think everything is great, when in reality there very well could be some serious problems lurking (like that simple AOS leak - if your AOS goes south while you're driving it may well do serious damage to your engine).
x2. I don't think they have much experience with the 996. I was alarmed when they advised a 1000 mile road trip with a failing AOS. I'm sure they can get the AOS job done but I'd be leery of anything deeper than that.

Is LOCO also who's selling the car? If so, demand a 30 day 3000 mile warranty covering everything!

Not trying to scare you but you need to go into this with eyes wide open and not let the dream cloud your judgement.
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One thing that I always bugged me about "proper" PPIs though, specifically dropping the sump and cutting open the filter to check for debris. In many cases dealers will lightly service cars as prep for sale which includes and oil and filter change. In that case, especially if the car has not been test driven, the oil and filter will be clean even if there were real problems before. Any thoughts on that?
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Originally Posted by pdizzle1
One thing that I always bugged me about "proper" PPIs though, specifically dropping the sump and cutting open the filter to check for debris. In many cases dealers will lightly service cars as prep for sale which includes and oil and filter change. In that case, especially if the car has not been test driven, the oil and filter will be clean even if there were real problems before. Any thoughts on that?
A test drive would/should be done before checking the filter and dropping the sump. If anything was shedding metal it will show up. Anything bigger than glitter will most likely still be sitting in the sump.
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Originally Posted by pdizzle1
One thing that I always bugged me about "proper" PPIs though, specifically dropping the sump and cutting open the filter to check for debris. In many cases dealers will lightly service cars as prep for sale which includes and oil and filter change. In that case, especially if the car has not been test driven, the oil and filter will be clean even if there were real problems before. Any thoughts on that?
Yes, this is a real concern! The old "clean-up before the sale"... Drive it some and check it again. Ask when the last service was done - if it was "yesterday", you may need a couple hundred miles before you get a true reading on things...
Old 05-31-2019, 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by dporto
^^Yup...exactly what I figured. Basically the mechanic did a quick visual "once over" and noted the most obvious stuff that jumped out at him. Once again, you got what you paid for, not a proper "PPI" which would cost you closer to $1k (most likely around $750). Please don't take this as an attack on you - it's not. More-so on the "mechanic" that sees dollar signs, and makes $200 for a 1/2 hr. of his time (sounds more like lawyers rates to me). The problem is, you get "peace of mind" and think everything is great, when in reality there very well could be some serious problems lurking (like that simple AOS leak - if your AOS goes south while you're driving it may well do serious damage to your engine).
This is not intended as a criticism and different strokes for different folks, but to me $1000 is a lot to pay for a car that you may not end up buying. Do that two or three times without landing something and you just paid for the IMS to be replaced. But I understand the peace of mind you get and certainly if there were real problems with the car it could cost a lot more. Again, I'm not having a go at you.

One other thing that I learned in buying my car. I spoke with three different independents and they all said the same thing unprompted by me: other than the IMS, these cars are really solid.
Old 05-31-2019, 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by 808Bill
A test drive would/should be done before checking the filter and dropping the sump. If anything was shedding metal it will show up. Anything bigger than glitter will most likely still be sitting in the sump.
Even a short test drive should produce any issues in the oil? I'm thinking of the scenario where the car is prepped for sale and sits on the lot. Maybe it gets driven 5-10 miles before the PPI.
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Good luck with the car. your trip back home will be one of the most watched road trips in 996 forum history, lol. keep us posted with pictures and again, good luck.
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Originally Posted by Optionman1
Good luck with the car. your trip back home will be one of the most watched road trips in 996 forum history, lol. keep us posted with pictures and again, good luck.
Sounds like he's Jim Lovell piloting Apollo 13 back to earth. Godspeed, man.
Old 05-31-2019, 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by mrfeh
So, the dealership doesn't have a durametric reader, which means no over-rev data.

I assume that's not a deal breaker...thoughts?

Yeah, I mean theoretically if something bad were going to happen as the result of an over-rev it would have happened by now. A lot of Porsche owners just don't want blemishes on their car's record so I guess the question I'd bounce back to you is how big would the lump be in your throat if you got a reading at your first visit to the mechanic and it comes back 100 Range 2?
Old 05-31-2019, 05:19 PM
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Take all of the drama with a grain of salt.

Was your PPI great/extensive? Nope.

Did I even bother with a PPI when I bought my 996? Nope. I knew enough to do what $200 would have bought, and I know the seller would not have submitted to an invasive PPI. So I spent my money and took my chances.

Thankfully, nothing serious showed up at my "post-purchase inspection" at Black Forest.

You do as much as you can to make you comfortable with the decision. If there's one "known" with 996 ownership, it's that you have NO idea what the car might do tomorrow - so you have to enjoy the car as it exists today.
Old 05-31-2019, 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by 5CHN3LL
Take all of the drama with a grain of salt.
I'm doing my best to do just that. It's a 900 mile road trip with a modern car. These cars can't be that fragile.

Gonna treat it like an adventure and enjoy myself.
Old 05-31-2019, 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by mrfeh
I'm doing my best to do just that. It's a 900 mile road trip with a modern car. These cars can't be that fragile.

Gonna treat it like an adventure and enjoy myself.
Drive it like you stole it!!!
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