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Old 01-11-2019, 12:20 PM
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Default Seems as there is not enough amps at starter

Seems as there is not enough amps at starter.
even though all cables appear good?
Old 01-11-2019, 12:41 PM
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have you tried a jumper cable to lug on engine ?
Old 01-11-2019, 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by dcdrechsel
have you tried a jumper cable to lug on engine ?
Excellent suggestion and in fact I was gonna suggest the same but saw the OP already removed the starter.
If you jump start at the cable lug (right above the a/c compressor) and the engine fires up, you need to check the positive battery cable at the battery post. That short cable connects to the power distribution and the nut could have come loose.
Just follow that cable from the trunk to the firewall.

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Originally Posted by thirteeneast
So got a replacement starter, tested it before putting it in.( All good)
Now same thing, soloniod sounds like it throws out but no crank?
battery volts good drop test good
Earth good
Relays good
Fuses good
ignition switch switches relays therefore good.
engine turns by hand and flywheel moves.

Anyone?
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Sounds like not enough Amperage.
Which earth did you check?
Make certain that the engine earth is good.
Also, double check the battery cables.
Old 01-11-2019, 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by dcdrechsel
have you tried a jumper cable to lug on engine ?
Yep tried that?
Old 01-11-2019, 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by TexSquirrel
Sounds like not enough Amperage.
Which earth did you check?
Make certain that the engine earth is good.
Also, double check the battery cables.
Checked the y splitter cable and block to chasis.
It's definitely not enough amps or a short but the CCA of the battery is fine
Just had it tested as I was doubting my own tester.
Its 800cca Bosch S5
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You can do a voltage drop test on each segment between the battery post and the starter +ve post to pinpoint the problematic segment.





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Originally Posted by Ahsai
You can do a voltage drop test on each segment between the battery post and the starter +ve post to pinpoint the problematic segment.

I'll try that tomorrow, so far I've only done it on the battery.
But tomorrow I'll start at the starter and work backwards,
I'll have to get my daughter to be my little helper.
Thanks to everyone so far much appreciated.
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Ok so the only thing I can see that doesn't seem right is I can't light a lamp over ground and output of soloniod?
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There are two connectors on the starter solenoid. One is the main battery cable connection that should be "hot" all the time, and is the main supply of battery amps. The other connector is 12V that is supplied by the ignition switch to kick the starter solenoid in so the main battery connection is supplying the main amps to turn the starter over.
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That would indicate the solenoid is not closing the contacts -I am assuming that this is with the key in start position .Take the solenoid apart and check the contacts ?What is the voltage measured at the cable ?
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Originally Posted by dcdrechsel
That would indicate the solenoid is not closing the contacts -I am assuming that this is with the key in start position .Take the solenoid apart and check the contacts ?What is the voltage measured at the cable ?
Soloniod is fine I've tried it on the bench and I have a second starter too.
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On that leg from the relay on ignition it drops too 9.6 volts under load which I believe is good?
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Well I know it don't really help but after lots of pulling twisting and tightnitig it now Turns over.
so it was a ground or a live somewhere but I'm buggered if I can tell you where apart from somewhere between the battery and the car lol.

Thanks a million for your patience guys

Now let's burn some rubber!

Going to tighten the whole car to 150ftlbs now too
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was interested in voltage on the main power cable key on and then key in start position


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