retrofit a gen 2 cluster in a gen 1?
01-19-2018, 12:38 PM
#16
Burning Brakes
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I believe the Bentley book has both wiring diagrams/pinouts
01-19-2018, 12:42 PM
#17
Drifting
01-19-2018, 04:14 PM
#21
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The 99-00 cluster is not a can bus unit. 2001+ has a LIN can bus. The 2002+ cluster has different plugs with 32 pins not 26 so you have to swap plugs and I believe the pins are slightly different too.
The 2002+ cluster does not have analog input for inputs from the ABS and DME so many items will not work.
I have ave done a few different conversions and have all the wiring pin outs and spread sheets. The only reason I convert and change anything is to run a 7.8DME for a vario cam plus engine swap.
Items that hat have to be swapped together.
DME
ABS
HVAC
Cluster.
The 2002+ cluster does not have analog input for inputs from the ABS and DME so many items will not work.
I have ave done a few different conversions and have all the wiring pin outs and spread sheets. The only reason I convert and change anything is to run a 7.8DME for a vario cam plus engine swap.
Items that hat have to be swapped together.
DME
ABS
HVAC
Cluster.
01-19-2018, 04:31 PM
#22
Burning Brakes
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Ah. So without making a module to interpret signals, this won't work. More then just changing pins and pin outs.
Shame. I hate the displays in the gen 1s.
Oh well. I have plenty of other project ideas for this car. Thank-you Charles for your insight into this. I might give you a ring later anyways in case?
Shame. I hate the displays in the gen 1s.
Oh well. I have plenty of other project ideas for this car. Thank-you Charles for your insight into this. I might give you a ring later anyways in case?
01-19-2018, 05:23 PM
#23
Burning Brakes
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The DME - I assume this is the main computer module? Different acronyms for different car companies. This module changed as well between gen 1 and gen 2 then? Gen 1 module can't be reflashed?
01-19-2018, 05:31 PM
#24
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Yes, thats the digital management for the engine. I think the easiest way to get the Gen 2 cluster will be to buy a gen 2 car. :-)
01-19-2018, 05:36 PM
#25
Burning Brakes
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Yes, thats the digital management for the engine. I think the easiest way to get the Gen 2 cluster will be to buy a gen 2 car. :-)
01-20-2018, 02:27 AM
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If you ever blow up your 3.4 and want to swap in a 3.6 or 3.8, the cluster swap becomes easier!
If you have detailed questions it’s best to email me.
Charles@dundonmotorsports.com
phone calls are ok just if the questions are detailed it’s best to get them in writing.
If you have detailed questions it’s best to email me.
Charles@dundonmotorsports.com
phone calls are ok just if the questions are detailed it’s best to get them in writing.
01-20-2018, 02:32 AM
#27
Burning Brakes
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If you ever blow up your 3.4 and want to swap in a 3.6 or 3.8, the cluster swap becomes easier!
If you have detailed questions it’s best to email me.
Charles@dundonmotorsports.com
phone calls are ok just if the questions are detailed it’s best to get them in writing.
If you have detailed questions it’s best to email me.
Charles@dundonmotorsports.com
phone calls are ok just if the questions are detailed it’s best to get them in writing.
cheers
03-31-2018, 09:07 PM
#28
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so 2001 can still work on 3.6 ?