'99 Coupe in Dallas for $11.5 - Looks Legit
07-29-2017, 10:31 AM
#16
Rennlist Member
I doubt $11.5k for a 99 is legit. I am in the chicago area and was able to find a local car - there are a lot of cars within 300 miles of here.
I agree on LSD - it's not that you need it, since I have so much traction without it, but having it is kind of a cool bonus.
I agree on LSD - it's not that you need it, since I have so much traction without it, but having it is kind of a cool bonus.
07-29-2017, 01:18 PM
#18
Three Wheelin'
$11,500 from a dealer? That's cheap, dirt cheap for a 911. Maybe you will get lucky and the car won't need much, only $2000 - $3000 in immediate work. Or, far more likely, you will purchase an $11,500 911 with few if any service records and pretty much needs everything replaced, which will cost you closer to $10,000. Here are some questions for that dealer -
is the suspension new or recently replaced? No? Okay that's $5,000 right there.
Water pump, thermostat records? No? Add another $1,000
Alternator, starter, wire harness? $600 if you do it all your self (I just did this) and closer to $1,800 at the dealer.
Tires new or less than three year on the manufacture date? No? Add another $800 minimum
Front bumper needs replacement - $500 - $1000 for used
Speakers? $200 for cheapies
Radio? Did you want to use blue tooth or make hands free calls? Add $400 for a new Alpine head unit
I could easily name 10 - 15 more things.
I think it might be worth a gamble, but it's important to realize at $11,500 it probably needs a few things before it will drive like a Porsche should. I purchased my 2002 for around $17,000 but put in more than $8,000 in two years and I can do some of the work myself.
is the suspension new or recently replaced? No? Okay that's $5,000 right there.
Water pump, thermostat records? No? Add another $1,000
Alternator, starter, wire harness? $600 if you do it all your self (I just did this) and closer to $1,800 at the dealer.
Tires new or less than three year on the manufacture date? No? Add another $800 minimum
Front bumper needs replacement - $500 - $1000 for used
Speakers? $200 for cheapies
Radio? Did you want to use blue tooth or make hands free calls? Add $400 for a new Alpine head unit
I could easily name 10 - 15 more things.
I think it might be worth a gamble, but it's important to realize at $11,500 it probably needs a few things before it will drive like a Porsche should. I purchased my 2002 for around $17,000 but put in more than $8,000 in two years and I can do some of the work myself.
07-29-2017, 02:12 PM
#19
Instructor
Thread Starter
$11,500 from a dealer? That's cheap, dirt cheap for a 911. Maybe you will get lucky and the car won't need much, only $2000 - $3000 in immediate work. Or, far more likely, you will purchase an $11,500 911 with few if any service records and pretty much needs everything replaced, which will cost you closer to $10,000. Here are some questions for that dealer -
is the suspension new or recently replaced? No? Okay that's $5,000 right there.
Water pump, thermostat records? No? Add another $1,000
Alternator, starter, wire harness? $600 if you do it all your self (I just did this) and closer to $1,800 at the dealer.
Tires new or less than three year on the manufacture date? No? Add another $800 minimum
Front bumper needs replacement - $500 - $1000 for used
Speakers? $200 for cheapies
Radio? Did you want to use blue tooth or make hands free calls? Add $400 for a new Alpine head unit
I could easily name 10 - 15 more things.
I think it might be worth a gamble, but it's important to realize at $11,500 it probably needs a few things before it will drive like a Porsche should. I purchased my 2002 for around $17,000 but put in more than $8,000 in two years and I can do some of the work myself.
is the suspension new or recently replaced? No? Okay that's $5,000 right there.
Water pump, thermostat records? No? Add another $1,000
Alternator, starter, wire harness? $600 if you do it all your self (I just did this) and closer to $1,800 at the dealer.
Tires new or less than three year on the manufacture date? No? Add another $800 minimum
Front bumper needs replacement - $500 - $1000 for used
Speakers? $200 for cheapies
Radio? Did you want to use blue tooth or make hands free calls? Add $400 for a new Alpine head unit
I could easily name 10 - 15 more things.
I think it might be worth a gamble, but it's important to realize at $11,500 it probably needs a few things before it will drive like a Porsche should. I purchased my 2002 for around $17,000 but put in more than $8,000 in two years and I can do some of the work myself.
P.S., the '02 in FL looks pretty good for $23.9k. The blonde is a distraction to the uninitiated. Doing some due diligence on Autohaus of Naples, I found this interesting story of he said-he said (click on complaint at the top right and then click to expand the complaint):
https://www.bbb.org/west-florida/pag...s?noskin&clean
07-29-2017, 02:41 PM
#20
Rennlist Member
I'd stay away from Autohaus, looks like they tried to pull a fast one on that guy...
07-29-2017, 05:37 PM
#21
Instructor
Thread Starter
The '02 here in Chicago is sold. I rode out to Auto Showcase today on my bike ready to knock him down a few grand armed with the Autohaus listing from Naples. The guy I had been speaking to, Andy, said they sold it yesterday for asking, and that the guy paid $1,500 to have an Auto Showcase porter drive it to him the same day. He lives somewhere on the border between Texas and Kansas. Can you believe that ****?
I said, but he could have shipped it for less. He said, I know, but he wanted it that day and shipping would have taken 3 at a minimum.
Unbelievable. I doubt the guy had a PPI done. I hope he drives it for another 200k.
I said, but he could have shipped it for less. He said, I know, but he wanted it that day and shipping would have taken 3 at a minimum.
Unbelievable. I doubt the guy had a PPI done. I hope he drives it for another 200k.
07-30-2017, 04:12 PM
#22
Burning Brakes
Is that the part of the border they call "Oklahoma?"
(Sorry for the stupid question ... up here we're only a couple hours south of Canadia, so some of us don't know a lot about geography south of Jersey or west of Pennsylvania.)
(Sorry for the stupid question ... up here we're only a couple hours south of Canadia, so some of us don't know a lot about geography south of Jersey or west of Pennsylvania.)
07-30-2017, 07:48 PM
#23
Instructor
Thread Starter
I can still name at least 30 of the 50 state capitals from the 8th grade test.
07-31-2017, 01:53 PM
#24
since you mentioned Midwest Performance Cars, I figured I'd chime in. If you can avoid them, take the car somewhere else. myself and a few other folks I know have had less than stellar experiences with them lately (ever since they switched ownership a couple of years ago).
07-31-2017, 07:30 PM
#25
Instructor
Thread Starter
since you mentioned Midwest Performance Cars, I figured I'd chime in. If you can avoid them, take the car somewhere else. myself and a few other folks I know have had less than stellar experiences with them lately (ever since they switched ownership a couple of years ago).
07-31-2017, 07:46 PM
#26
Rennlist Member
since you mentioned Midwest Performance Cars, I figured I'd chime in. If you can avoid them, take the car somewhere else. myself and a few other folks I know have had less than stellar experiences with them lately (ever since they switched ownership a couple of years ago).
I took my car there for a diagnosis that 2 other shops couldn't do. There is a Porsche guy there - his name might be Chris.
That said, I remember the old shop quite well. I cannot remeber if it was Tom or Bruce, but they did mostly air-cooled cars and had quite a small collection of them about 10-12 years ago.
The new shop works on all kinds of cars, not just Porsche, so I'm sure they might not be as detailed as the old shop.
I've used quite a few different shops near Chicagoland over the years. It's hard to find a place that does good work that you don't have to drive too far to.
07-31-2017, 07:55 PM
#27
Instructor
Thread Starter
What happened? They have good ratings on Yelp and such, and good info from friends' experiences.
I took my car there for a diagnosis that 2 other shops couldn't do. There is a Porsche guy there - his name might be Chris.
That said, I remember the old shop quite well. I cannot remeber if it was Tom or Bruce, but they did mostly air-cooled cars and had quite a small collection of them about 10-12 years ago.
The new shop works on all kinds of cars, not just Porsche, so I'm sure they might not be as detailed as the old shop.
I've used quite a few different shops near Chicagoland over the years. It's hard to find a place that does good work that you don't have to drive too far to.
I took my car there for a diagnosis that 2 other shops couldn't do. There is a Porsche guy there - his name might be Chris.
That said, I remember the old shop quite well. I cannot remeber if it was Tom or Bruce, but they did mostly air-cooled cars and had quite a small collection of them about 10-12 years ago.
The new shop works on all kinds of cars, not just Porsche, so I'm sure they might not be as detailed as the old shop.
I've used quite a few different shops near Chicagoland over the years. It's hard to find a place that does good work that you don't have to drive too far to.
since you mentioned Midwest Performance Cars, I figured I'd chime in. If you can avoid them, take the car somewhere else. myself and a few other folks I know have had less than stellar experiences with them lately (ever since they switched ownership a couple of years ago).
https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/d...3898/overview/
08-01-2017, 12:41 PM
#28
What about VFC Engineering in North Chicago? I have been talking with the seller of this C4S and he had pretty extensive work done there:
https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/d...3898/overview/
https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/d...3898/overview/
as far as Midwest performance goes, my girlfriend brought her boxster to them to replace a broken door lock and examine a leaky top. They needed to order a part from Germany (which they marked up 300%) and claimed they could get in 3 days (the 3 day part is why we brought it to them). Took 5 weeks and they charged 2 hours of labor to do absolutely nothing with the top. They also charged a crazy amount to remove the door card and replace the door locking mechanism. Had I known it was going to take that long, I could have just ordered it myself and installed with a buddy over a weekend. when we tried to take the car from them, they already had a $500 bill lined up since they had to remove the door card.
The convenience of being in the west loop was appealing, but after dealing with Chris (the main service writer), theres no way I'll ever bring anything back to them.
