mickfluff

was once this....



Then the $$$/Aircooled madness started this forum went to this......


carry on....

Quadcammer

video is a load of bull****. Porsche just wants your money and then delivers products with serious flaws in them. Its a shame their engineering and powertrain development engineers are not as good as their marketing department.

but yes, this forum is a non entity at this point.

mickfluff

TT Surgeon

Yep, 930 board is worse. Most who had em, sold em it seems. Hence the increased interest in 996/997 turbos.

mickfluff

997 forum (none turbo) still quite active as well which is great but have had 997 cars on and off since 08. Still modding away on my 997s. But after this round of parts going on am about done. Was looking to do a wide body build but no good products for a 997 for that and just decided to pick up something else to scratch that itch in a 993 build.

The 993 forum still active if you avoid the wide body 993 cars as too many afraid to change them affecting "value".
So the need for an air cooler is back for me. Like a bad relationship with that X you keep going back to. Keeping my black 997 and have an offer on a black 993 that goes to ppi this Saturday.
Assuming all goes well I have a bunch of mods ready to order...
18' BBS e88s, rs clubsport rear decklid, rs front chin spoiler, along with interior mods.... alcantara rs door panels, alcantara steering wheel, dash and shift boot, carbon fiber parts, some things from rennline Etc.. This is phase one (Clubsport like tribute), phase two will be rsr fender flares and other things. (RSR tribute)

May buy some some 19 bbs e88s as well for my 997 aero car...thought maybe neat to have two black aero like 911s (997 and a 993) both with e88s, modded etc..

Anyway that's the plan.
And the longest post this forum has seen in months.... and not even about a 993TT.


I will let this forum get back to the crickets.

Cemoto

Yes, this is a quiet group.

List one for sale and watch what happens though.

I think many people are not driving theirs as much due to the increase in value - if they did there would be more posts, and even fewer want to mod them.

If someone finds out I own one, the first question out of their mouth is "Do you know how much those have gone up in value?" not, "What's it like?" etc.

Also, from a shear numbers standpoint - 1,900 imported to the USA. Of those 1,900 10% crashed, 10% exported leaves approximately 1,500 left in the states so the pool of English speaking owners possibly has shrunk.

Just a couple of thoughts . . . .

Carry on crickets.

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OverBoosted28

Sorry, I have been preoccupied, trying to assure the future health, of my "investment". :-)

Mike J

The owner profile of all air-cooled cars is changing over time, primarily driven by entry cost. When the entry point for a 993 of any kind was affordable to the middle class enthusiast (say 5 -8 years ago), you would see lots of mods, customization, track work, etc. You were not losing that much hacking up the cars. Then the prices tripled, so now its more collectors, upper class enthusiasts, etc, and the percentage of people modifying these cars has dropped dramatically. Its pretty simple.

The NB cars are still to some extent being modified because their entry price is 1/2 or less than the Turbo, but even that is slowing down. The S cars are now approaching Turbo land, and they are also more and more remaining stock or lightly modified, such as shocks or wheel changes.

The actual cost of mods is going up too. Internal engine modification is now hyper expensive, and Porsche keeps upping the parts costs faster than inflation, likely in light of the rising market values of these cars.

I have had several of my friends "cash out" on their TT's or S's, some upgrading to GT3's or 997 Turbos, some just taking the moola.

So sorry gentlemen, its the direct result of the current prices and its not going away. The Turbo prices are cooling down for sure, but they are still pretty high, certainly beyond most people's entry point.

Cheers,

Mike

OverBoosted28

Maybe this'll help.... helps me :-)

997rs4.0

That's nice👍👍

Saw quite a few 993tt for sale in the 40-50k mile range at Amelia island auctions last week. Most had reserves at $140k. Haven't seen the results but I doubt any of those cars sold.

TT Surgeon

Thats nice man!
I think Mike pegged it, different type of owner, as with 930s. I'm f I still had my 505 I think I'd be afraid to drive it, irreplaceable. Kills the fun.

Nacelle

ya...sold mine and now happily in a '12 997.2 TTS

Driving it daily and not worrying about it

sfl993t4

Don't worry, some of us are still modifying (will post some details of the latest projects soon), despite the rise in values.
Have to admit would have been a harder choice if starting now (rather than ages ago before the values went up).
Steve

AC/911's

I've sold A Lot of Stock cars & Understand the values....

But I DON"T Drive One!!!

MarinS4

Perfect!

I understand the value takes a hit but a properly modded 993 is a night and day difference over stock. I guess it comes down to what's most important to you.