997.1GT3 RS prices speak for themselves from ads posted in classifieds today. I don't need to tell people where they sell for today above MSRP. I could have bought one as low as $75K and know a few that traded in the $80-90s a few years back.

I hope you get to experience one because the 993TT experience is uniquely different from everything else and that is why so few of them come up for sale nowadays; especially the driver cars.

I don't see a point in selling mine because there is nothing else that can replace the unique blend of modern and classic in a Porsche.

 

I sold my first .1RS for 75k in 2009. I passed on multiple .1RS with miles in the 80-105k range back in the 2010-2013 days...
Those were the days. But I have 2 now and that is enough.
If i did not have one, i would pay $150k for one as they are that good and i wouldnt be able to do without one.

Turbo is indeed an experience however. I really enjoy my 993C4S but the turbo would make it perfect.

There is no point in selling your car. It is indeed one of the great air cooled experiences which is why i am hunting and looking from the outside in.... a hard place to be... lol

as the ol' saying goes, they dont build them like this anymore...

 

The past 6 to 3 months the market valuation of the 993 Turbos has risen by let's just say a lot. But that is true for practically ALL Collector cars. Just a few months ago Dealer's, real Porsche dealers, were selling 993 Turbos for about $25K to $50K less! Now all of them seem to be starting at $200K regardless of year or mileage.

Remember Porsche made improvements to the 97 Turbo that the 96 needed! So if faced with acquiring either years get a 97 or 98. But I'm not knocking the 96 one bit. Just seems not to be any value delta between 96 and the 97 & 98.

 

In the US, we didn't get 98' MY, and the changes between 96' and 97' were not THAT significant; stronger input shafts that still can't withstand repeated abuse and flashable ECU. I have no intention of taking my car to the drag strip and it doesn't bother me to ship out my ECU when or if I want a new tune. The other changes are mostly minor cosmetic. Of more significance is the comparative rarity of 97' models to 96' models.

 

There is not enough difference in setup between a 7.1GT3 and the RS to warrant a $60-70K price gap.

Wing
LWFW
Wide body

That is 90% of it. Unlike the .2 generation where there are gearing and other bits..

 

True about the 98 but this is an International Forum.

Porsche made the Improvements for a reason so personally I would be in the market for an 97.

I love the old 993 Turbos since they were the cars that got me into being one of the Porsche Faithful but nearly 20 years on when I spend around $200K for a Porsche it will be for a newly built to spec 991 TT in Arena Red of course. Just wish a company would make updated, plus size, 993 Turbo wheels.

 

This is a bit OT given the subject of the thread, but I think it's important for informational purposes. There are three differences between US 1996 and 1997 993 Turbos that I'm aware of: 1997s have upgraded turbo hoses, a programmable ECU and a stronger 1st gear input shaft. Have I forgotten any other substantive differences?

As these cars are approaching 20 years old, all but the lowest mileage cars have had the turbo hoses changed out to the newer version with the orange stripe.

Having a programmable ECU may or may not be important to an owner depending on one's desire to modify the ECU.

Having a stronger 1st gear input shaft is important if one plans to drag race a 993 Turbo. When drag raced, it's not difficult to warp the 1st gear shaft of a 993 Turbo.

You observed that there's not a huge "value delta" between US 1996 and 1997 Turbos. My guess as to why is because there weren't meaningful improvements year-over-year from 1996 to 1997. That said, I agree that all other things being equal including price, I'd rather own a 1997 993 Turbo. It's a newer car than a 1996 and the last US air cooled Porsche 911 Turbo.

 

^ I have also noticed little things like the gap between the engine block and pulleys are a bit wider in my 97 compared to quadcammer's 96. It is still a pain to get the belts in but not crazy tight..

 

The last couple months of '96 production had the '97 modifications except for the ECU and they still start with the clutch disengaged.

 

True, but I was speaking contextually because all of the cars listed on the first post are in the U.S.

 

It should be a $20k gap at best.... but alas, people get RS fever. Something about the widebody and side logos and they go wild! It is the "exclusive" club appeal that sucks them in...

 

Aware of a wheel manufacturer that makes 993 Turbo wheels in plus sizes to fit the newer Cars say 19 and 20 inch? One off's would be crazy expensive otherwise it would be those new Fuch's they produced when the 997 was out through Porsche Exclusive. The new Turbo wheel option just doesn't say "Hey I'm a Turbo" like past iterations have!

I could, as we all, see where the ecu on the 97 could be very helpful - could deliver some Instant Karma I mean HP (George Harrison r.i.p.)!

Don't forget best of all, more power.

 

You all are forgetting the most important upgrade from 96 to 97 models! The IGN KEY light 96' users report that they have problems to find the ign key in the dark and are not able to start their engines! FAIL

 

My '96 has the ignition key light.

 

Really? I did know the 96' - models supposedly didn't come with that gem of engineering! Maybe somehwere in the 96' year they started to fit them