Anyone with experience with the 450 HP kits?
03-17-2014, 01:06 AM
#46
Three Wheelin'
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My mistake, you can find em' a lot of places $50 each, That particular car didn't have an extra cooler, ran fine in AZ, was street use though. http://www.ecstuning.com/Search/710N/ES581/
03-17-2014, 01:10 AM
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03-17-2014, 01:13 AM
#49
Three Wheelin'
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Dang it, you're setting yourself to be able to tell me "I told you so!" I truly get the impression that this is not pushing the engine that hard. Am I mistaken?
03-17-2014, 01:14 AM
#50
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I did the RUF oil cooler, good fit and works well. I also did the Protomotive 16G, ECU, Boost controller, 5bar FPR, and it works very well. I am wondering if my diverter valves are right? Can someone please explain to me the benefit of the 410 Diverters vs stock? Where do you buy 410 diverters?
03-17-2014, 06:02 AM
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03-17-2014, 03:27 PM
#54
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Agreed $5k or less, Send Ecu to Todd ( 96 or 97), Rebuild 16's (16g's), 710 Diverters, Manual boost controller. Ive had at least 5 993tt's, all done a little different, This set up was easiest & VERY fast, this is a conservative loaded Dyno (probably 20% loss), I'd say 470Hp Easy on 91oct. You must set boost on Dyno in order to Tune right & check AFR's.
Does the 993 TT have a viscous coupler too? How do I find a Dyno shop that can work with the viscous coupler? When you say must set boost on a dyno, I have not been able to find a dyno in Denver that can work with AWD 911. I had a 997.1 before and the viscous couple was the reason that I could net get the car dynoed.
Is your 470HP number at the crank or at the wheel? Also Todd said I would get 60 to 80 HP increase from the ECO plus 50 HP from the turbos or a total increase of 110 to 130HP from 408, going to a range of 518 to 538HP. Your 470 is much lower than he has stated, but given you have done 5 so far, I suspect you have it pretty hard wired.
03-17-2014, 04:23 PM
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03-17-2014, 08:26 PM
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That's right. At 1.2 bar, 100oct gas with the 16/16G hybrids that's not an unrealistic number. Rare911 has done that and has the dyno graphs to prove it. At .9bar on 91oct at 5600ft where you are it's not going to make that much. But it should still be 100 more fwhp than what you have today and that difference is all that matters.
You can dyno our cars on a Mustang Dynometer(its a Brand of dyno) safely. Or you can unhook the front wheel drive...it's about 30-60mins worth of work. I've not done it myself but that's what I was told. Then you just hook it back up when you done.
You can dyno our cars on a Mustang Dynometer(its a Brand of dyno) safely. Or you can unhook the front wheel drive...it's about 30-60mins worth of work. I've not done it myself but that's what I was told. Then you just hook it back up when you done.
03-18-2014, 09:06 AM
#59
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Protomotive 16g package with Greedy electronic boost controller works very well.
My Boost settings = stock 0.8 / 0.9 and 1.1 barg, it will lift your skirt!
Boost controller is hidden and accessible in ashtray, really slick
Just be sure to have the kit installed by an experienced shop!!!
Oil cooler only needed if you plan to track or use hard in very hot ambients
I also installed RS sways and PSS10's.
Techart fogs with active brake cooling ducts and Turbo S frt spoiler
03-27-2014, 10:49 AM
#60
Wrong X50 has k16 and 430 HP or Werksleistungsteigerung short WLS I
my 97 was delivered with X50 and 1 year later was upgrated with 450 Hp kit
what we called here in Germany WLS II
car has now 40k miles since then and run great, maybe with turbolag, but here on the Autobahn you can feel the difference
maybe is not the Money worth but they are rare and sought after
my 97 was delivered with X50 and 1 year later was upgrated with 450 Hp kit
what we called here in Germany WLS II
car has now 40k miles since then and run great, maybe with turbolag, but here on the Autobahn you can feel the difference
maybe is not the Money worth but they are rare and sought after
Mine is a RoW spec and came from factory with X50 430 HP package with a bunch of Turbo S goodies.
Later I found my car had from the begining of it's life in it's final desination (country) the 450 HP kit offered by Porsche (k24's Turbo S RoW ecu and oil cooler was factory installed/ordered).
Never driven another 993tt specially with the K16 turbos, but mine feels laggy, once the boost comes, you get a punch in your chest against the seats.