intercooler hoses S Car Go
10-15-2013, 10:17 AM
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10-15-2013, 01:47 PM
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10-15-2013, 07:56 PM
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Tin trimming
The tin has a round sleeve type liner tac welded into it. You can grab it with strong needle nose pliers and tear it out. If you're concerned with making the hole to big you'll need to trim it as opposed to removing the whole sleeve insert. You might need to use a chisel to strike at the tac welds to start splitting them. Wedge it between the tin and the sleeve. This will have to be done from the engine compartment. Unfortunately you'll probably have to take the muffler bracket off to get to it properly. I got one off and found the allen head bolt on the pass. side was rounded out and I couldn't get it out. Had to bend bracket to get to tin and then try and bend it back to it's original position (not fun at all). Use a rubber 1 1/2" plumbing test cap on turbo outlet while doing this.
10-15-2013, 08:12 PM
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Guys, It is too subjective to discuss peoples perception of what constitutes good value and what does not.
I am more than aware of the tooling and other related costs involved in manufacturing, especially hand made parts. When spread over a very limited market the "higher"cost justification can make more sense. With the way the upgraded stock hoses, especially the right side one, still don't manage to offer enough land for a proper clamping, even with constant torque Breeze clamps. You still get the hose end that tends to extrude out.
I have been building intercoolers and charge air systems going back to converting the 934 and 935's from water to air intercooling. Still for found it better value to to just buy this set. How much does it cost you to miss some or all of a track day? Sometimes the hose does not want to go back on because it chunked when it popped off.
I bet if there was a group buy the price would reduce to something more acceptable. As Ryojo pointed out the tin needs to be opened up a bit.
Rick
I am more than aware of the tooling and other related costs involved in manufacturing, especially hand made parts. When spread over a very limited market the "higher"cost justification can make more sense. With the way the upgraded stock hoses, especially the right side one, still don't manage to offer enough land for a proper clamping, even with constant torque Breeze clamps. You still get the hose end that tends to extrude out.
I have been building intercoolers and charge air systems going back to converting the 934 and 935's from water to air intercooling. Still for found it better value to to just buy this set. How much does it cost you to miss some or all of a track day? Sometimes the hose does not want to go back on because it chunked when it popped off.
I bet if there was a group buy the price would reduce to something more acceptable. As Ryojo pointed out the tin needs to be opened up a bit.
Rick
10-15-2013, 08:19 PM
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ok, let me ask this then.
Instead of dicking around with the hose, why not just cut the intercooler inlet, add one inch of material, and weld the lip back on.
repaint. Looks like stock, uses stock hoses, and shouldn't cost more than maybe $200 or so.
Instead of dicking around with the hose, why not just cut the intercooler inlet, add one inch of material, and weld the lip back on.
repaint. Looks like stock, uses stock hoses, and shouldn't cost more than maybe $200 or so.
10-16-2013, 02:27 AM
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That would probably work somewhat but the problem I think is the purchase/amount of hose that can fit over the ends, even with longer inlet, the hose will only go on a certain amount due to the design, both at the intercooler end and turbo end. I think the turbo end is more of a problem and tends to shred the end when it comes off/hose lips get frayed with over tightening.
10-16-2013, 02:28 AM
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Things are worse if running higher boost, taking intercoolers off all the time 
and aluminum diverter valves that probably don't open as fast as stock...
and aluminum diverter valves that probably don't open as fast as stock...
10-16-2013, 11:32 AM
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Hi
I think the group buy suggested above is a good plan (if the vendor agrees). I'd be in.
The pipes definitely look a good idea given the issues with stock tubes and higher boost.
Steve
I think the group buy suggested above is a good plan (if the vendor agrees). I'd be in.
The pipes definitely look a good idea given the issues with stock tubes and higher boost.
Steve
10-16-2013, 10:04 PM
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I'm in for the GB>
10-17-2013, 02:48 PM
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