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Old 10-07-2012, 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by IamSMC
There's something about an Andial being built by the guy who ran Porsche Motorsports North America.
And who are you referring to?
Old 10-07-2012, 03:34 PM
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Andial sold parts to anyone.
For it to be a certified Andial twin plug car it has to have been built by Andial and be on the Registry. (One of the registry cars is a 3.6 twin plug by the way.)
Andial has stated by letter they will continue to support the registry cars.
I suppose the bottom line with Andial and RUF cars is the provenance and pedigree.
As Jimmy the Felon, who knows far more about them than I, said "It's like a Yenko Camaro."
From an end users point of view:
El Guapo is the finest street 993 Porsche I have ever driven. Endless power, fabulously complient ride, superb handling and braking and IMHO Bitchn Lookn.

With a few changes in setup I hear they make a pretty decent track car too.
Old 10-07-2012, 03:38 PM
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Andial WAS Porsche Motorsports North America.
I think they won a coupla races.
Old 10-07-2012, 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by ScottMellor
Andial WAS Porsche Motorsports North America.
I think they won a coupla races.
This was before the 993 days. I worked at PMNA.
Old 10-07-2012, 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by IamSMC
Would I take this Andial 3.8 over a Ruf car? Well, hell yes!!! There's something about an Andial being built by the guy who ran Porsche Motorsports North America.

If $$$ and availability wasn't main issues, I'll take one of each...
i agree completely!
Old 10-07-2012, 06:41 PM
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There is at least one 993 Ruf Vin car in the U S. I own it. By the way, the Yellow Bird was a Ruf Vin car.
Old 10-07-2012, 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by ctr2
By the way, the Yellow Bird was a Ruf Vin car.
Read too fast...

Ruf became a recognized auto manufacturer in the USA in 1987, 1981 in Europe

I stand corrected

Old 10-07-2012, 07:15 PM
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I know of many Ruf vin cars in the US.

Interesting comment on pedigree, good point.
Old 10-07-2012, 07:30 PM
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Yes many RUF vin cars in the US I agree. However, are there many RUF VIN 993 Turbo cars in the US ? I thought there were none or if any very very few. Also, can anybody clarify what makes a 993 Turbo modified by RUF a RUF Turbo R rather than just a 993 TT that RUF did a few mods to ? The types of mods I see on various cars described as a RUF Turbo R seem to differ from car to car. I asked this question to the RUF auto center and they did not know the answer.
Old 10-07-2012, 07:39 PM
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All ruf conversions should have a COA signed by A Ruf. Ruf can easily verify if the car in question is a ruf or not.
This applies to all ruf conversions done at RAC to my knowledge.
Old 10-07-2012, 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by JRubenstein
Hi,

I represent the seller of this 3.8 Andial and took the pictures. I gave Scott a call and he was of great help, thanks again. If you guys want some more detailed pictures please check out this gallery http://www.camstancephotography.com/...porsche-993-tt
I have over 80k of invoices from Andial for this car and I would be happy to try and answer any of your questions about this 993.
Cheers,
-Jasper Rubenstein
Pm me if the car doesn't sell on fleabay, I'll make an offer
C
Old 10-07-2012, 08:16 PM
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Ruf Turbo R conversions have different cams, ECU, exhaust, hybrid turbos, and a few other things that I am forgetting. You can take it much further with other interior and exterior modifications.

RUF Dallas did the conversions in the US with techs that lived in Dallas (a couple of them are still at RAC). They did less than 10 conversions, from what Hans told me. Yes, official RUF paperwork is important. I have paperwork on RUF letterhead/invoice that lists many parts and items upgraded and a big $ at the end. I expect that most Turbo R owners have that. And I hear the RUF Germany is pretty responsive to requests for authenticity.

Once RUF Dallas lost its exclusivity with RUF Germany, I don't believe they did any more official RUF conversions. These conversions were/are very expensive and not many customers were requesting them.

NYC, good question on whether there are any 993 Turbo R cars with RUF vin. I think so, but have never seen one.
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Vin cars are very rare, according to Alois Ruf, himself, they do not even average 30 Ruf vin cars per year, that may be less than 1000 vin cars ever built, compare that to the limitless number of conversion done by Ruf , authorized dealers and cars converted with privately purchased Ruf parts. Food for thought.
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A car converted privately with ruf parts is not a ruf conversion.
Old 10-07-2012, 10:55 PM
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IIRC there is one in winnipeg (perhaps Marshy) with RUF vin that is advertised for sale with no price.


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