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Old 07-03-2012, 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by XR4Tim
I have a car that will out-accelerate a Turbo S, and I could easily get one that will out-handle any of those cars for less than $10k. That's not the point. It's the whole package. And of course it's subjective, but I love the way a 993TTS looks, sounds, and I haven't driven one, but I imagine it drives like other 993s, which I like.
Um, are you sure you are quoting the right person? I haven't the slightest clue what your argument is referring to.

I agree that the whole package is important, but are you saying that an F430 is not a good whole package?
Old 07-03-2012, 03:26 PM
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The guy who just sold his 250 GTO for 35 million would probably disagree with you!

In fact, not only 356's but early 911's have also been on the rise.

Not saying I am putting my 401(k) into cars, but the collectible car market appears to be moving up again. More fun than watching the stock market indexes!
Old 07-03-2012, 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by hal m
The guy who just sold his 250 GTO for 35 million would probably disagree with you!

In fact, not only 356's but early 911's have also been on the rise.

Not saying I am putting my 401(k) into cars, but the collectible car market appears to be moving up again. More fun than watching the stock market indexes!
you are basically referring to the absolutely .1% of the collector car hobby. Thats like saying the guy who bought apple stock at $2 would disagree.

cars, on the whole, are bad investments.
Old 07-03-2012, 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Quadcammer
Um, are you sure you are quoting the right person? I haven't the slightest clue what your argument is referring to.

I agree that the whole package is important, but are you saying that an F430 is not a good whole package?
My point is that even though the cars you listed may be quicker or handle better than a 993TTS, that doesn't necessarily make them more desirable. I would say the F430 is a good whole package, but it doesn't do as much for me as a 993TTS.
Old 07-03-2012, 05:30 PM
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well everybody has their own preferences, but I'd disagree. I guess thats why they make so many options.
Old 07-03-2012, 07:52 PM
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As I have posted here before, were it not for difference of opinion there would be no horse racing and we would be fighting over the same woman. With that said, I agree with Quad that cars, for most of us, yield dividends in enjoyment but not big increases in value. There are exceptions, and if you have the dough, the patience, the courage and are prescient you can can sure make money. That isn't why most of us love Porsches, but we are enthusiasts and have a special perspective concerning desirability. I sure wish I had bought a TTS not too long when they were trading around 100K. I figure that even though I have been in love with this marque for several decades and know more than the average bear about these cars, I missed, totally, the investment potential of the TTS. So I guess I am humbled when it comes to cars, even Porsches, as investment instruments. The fact remains that my 28K 993TT sits in my garage under cover, while I DD my 991S Cab. PLEASE STOP ME BEFORE I BUY AGAIN!
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I was not saying that most of us could make a living buying/selling cars, but I was observing that in the past few years I have been following the collector car market, mostly through avid reading of Sports Car Market magazine, the price of many collectibles I had been interested in have risen significantly. In particular, E-Type Jags, Dino's, Sunbeam Tigers (even them!), open 356's, soft window Targas. And 993TTS's!
Old 07-03-2012, 08:49 PM
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I really think these 993 turbos whether they be S or regular are only going to increase in value the next 10-15 years. I'm 34 and my generation grew up with the "kills bugs fast" posters on our dorm room walls and these are our dream cars. Just look what's happen to the market for F40's and 959's. Those are being bought up by people in their 40's and 50's who now are fortunate enough enough to be in a position to buy their dream cars.

As far as other cars with a limited run that could be compared with the 993 tts look at the Ferrari 512M (last run of the Testarossa). Not for me but a unique low volume car. Btw I was fortunate enough to own a 575M previously and I wouldn't trade my 993tt for it in a million years. It was an amazing car but just too temperamental.

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Old 07-04-2012, 02:49 AM
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I love the 993 Turbo S and the 430 Spider... So I have both and they both have high miles
Old 07-04-2012, 12:24 PM
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you, lucky man!
Old 07-04-2012, 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Quadcammer
while I agree with the rest of your post, how you can think a 6 speed F430 is all show, I'm not sure.

that was an awesome car to drive.
take one to the track and wring it out, then get back to me.

Don't mean to be a smarta$$, so don't get offended. But if you want to impress people, get an F. If you want a car that can run all day at the track... get a P
Old 07-04-2012, 02:17 PM
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can you expand on the things you didn't like at the track?
Old 07-04-2012, 06:51 PM
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Brakes... or better, lack thereof. On a hot day, coolant would fail too.

was a member of Autobahn for several years until some issues caused me to leave racing

when F owners would bring their cars out, we would literally take wagers on how many laps before they would pit. Typically 4 laps on the longer track is all it would take.

360s were worse. And Scags would do much better with CF. But a stock 430 just wasn't equipped

In my experience only three cars could go from the showroom to the track and be expected to go all day

Elise/Exige
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Porsche, 911 or Gayman, both could do it

Some cars had great brakes... F-GT comes to mind. But it would cook itself
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Back to the original post...

From Excellence magazine (Aug 2012):
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Old 07-04-2012, 10:42 PM
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asking price does not equal Market Value

If it did, no one's house would be underwater....


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