Stock 993TT + $4k = 560bhp?
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Re Protsports
John (engines) and Paul (suspensions) are probably one of the best 993 Turbo tuners in North America.
They know their sh*t around P cars, are honest, reliable and 110% on deliverables.
They transformed my Turbo into a completely new and very driveable street and track vehicle.
I just wish they were closer to Quebec.
FWIW, I understand a rule of thumb is (with a sound engine) ~ 35HP/0.1 bar of add'l boost.
John (engines) and Paul (suspensions) are probably one of the best 993 Turbo tuners in North America.
They know their sh*t around P cars, are honest, reliable and 110% on deliverables.
They transformed my Turbo into a completely new and very driveable street and track vehicle.
I just wish they were closer to Quebec.
FWIW, I understand a rule of thumb is (with a sound engine) ~ 35HP/0.1 bar of add'l boost.
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im 16/16g , with protomotive, 5bar fpr etc etc - very very scary, once i achieved my huge grin factor i dialed down the boost, just pull it out the bag every now and then to scare the sh%t out of non believers. (it works)
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Very few 993tts have over 650hp for racing and those which do require rebuilds every 20 hours which can include new heads, they also have the obigatory $20K Secan intercoolers.
If you search the forum we talked about this subject endlessly and in fact it prompted Bill S to invent the 60-130mph measurement (which is now reverred by the bling crowd) AFAIK non of VB's 560hp cars ever did a 60-130mph measurement, if they did it should come in around 7.5s with 2 gearchanges.
If you search the forum we talked about this subject endlessly and in fact it prompted Bill S to invent the 60-130mph measurement (which is now reverred by the bling crowd) AFAIK non of VB's 560hp cars ever did a 60-130mph measurement, if they did it should come in around 7.5s with 2 gearchanges.
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There is my story somewhere of me buying a set of Kevin's K16 stage 3 (or was it 4 or 5 ) turbos. This is in the era of the talk of 600+hp being an easy bolt on and these turbos had massive compressors and fully machined hot sides and were said to be able to flow much more than a K24.
I paid for the engine to be engine dyno tested with these turbos on and it made 475hp as was with a possibility of making 500 with tweaking, I can't believe a new compressor would make any more power than these.
I paid for the engine to be engine dyno tested with these turbos on and it made 475hp as was with a possibility of making 500 with tweaking, I can't believe a new compressor would make any more power than these.
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Good god this is why I dont post here anymore. I have nothing to prove to anyone here. Be skeptical, I dont care. Been there, done that and try to pass on info. Yes when we did these things was back before all the datalogging 60-130 stuff TB. I have moved on to mostly racing now with newer Porsches. If you are in doubt ask guys I raced with in CA, or any of my 993TT customers (many Rennlisters).
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Hey Bob! Que Pasa amigo?
This is why I brokered the famous Viper Bob V Jimmy The Felon matchup at Big Willow. The loser was to buy me a beer.
I got stiffed on the beer tho....![Frown](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/frown.gif)
Jimmy says he won, but not by much.
You car was stupid fast. (But I'll wager another beer you had more than 4K into upgrades!![Smilie](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif)
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This is why I brokered the famous Viper Bob V Jimmy The Felon matchup at Big Willow. The loser was to buy me a beer.
I got stiffed on the beer tho....
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Jimmy says he won, but not by much.
You car was stupid fast. (But I'll wager another beer you had more than 4K into upgrades!
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Hey Bob! Que Pasa amigo?
This is why I brokered the famous Viper Bob V Jimmy The Felon matchup at Big Willow. The loser was to buy me a beer.
I got stiffed on the beer tho....![Frown](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/frown.gif)
Jimmy says he won, but not by much.
You car was stupid fast. (But I'll wager another beer you had more than 4K into upgrades!![Smilie](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif)
)
This is why I brokered the famous Viper Bob V Jimmy The Felon matchup at Big Willow. The loser was to buy me a beer.
I got stiffed on the beer tho....
![Frown](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/frown.gif)
Jimmy says he won, but not by much.
You car was stupid fast. (But I'll wager another beer you had more than 4K into upgrades!
![Smilie](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif)
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You think I am bothered about this anymore ? I paid the money and tested the K16s on an engine dyno and they cannot flow much more than 500hp - This information is free to 933tt Rennlisters - they can make their own minds up
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All I can add is that Protosport did my Protomotive Stage 2 upgrade in 2002/3. I've owned since 2003 and have NO problems. Car runs like a top and is "shall we say" quick. I would like to dyno but neede to disconnect the 4x4 system to do so safely. I would love to put my turbo's in front of the cats, but my SO doesn't think I need to spend the $$. She thinks it's fast enough. Foolish woman.
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Spartan,
Isn't that kinda the gist of this thread?
From what I recall, VBs car was anything but stock.
But it's been a while and it was all in good fun.
(Other than the fact I could not make it that day and got no beer.)
I have nothin' but love for both VB and JTF, as they were both brave enough to instruct me as a noob track driver.
Isn't that kinda the gist of this thread?
From what I recall, VBs car was anything but stock.
But it's been a while and it was all in good fun.
(Other than the fact I could not make it that day and got no beer.)
I have nothin' but love for both VB and JTF, as they were both brave enough to instruct me as a noob track driver.
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