Need PPI in Norcal, East Bay area!
07-20-2007, 08:13 PM
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Need PPI in Norcal, East Bay area!
Recommendations?
I called Kahlers and since they have changed ownership... fogettaboudit...
The guy mumbled some stuff about 4hours labor just to do comp/leakdown, remove bumper,etc... "depends on how buried it is", he says. oh my. Remove the bumper? So, obviously they are not familiar with these cars. Or at least he wasn't. If anyone else has recent good feedback, great!
So, any other options on a shop that has a clue. Anyone else out in the NorCal East Bay Area?
(In my book this rules out Stead Porsche too)
I called Kahlers and since they have changed ownership... fogettaboudit...
The guy mumbled some stuff about 4hours labor just to do comp/leakdown, remove bumper,etc... "depends on how buried it is", he says. oh my. Remove the bumper? So, obviously they are not familiar with these cars. Or at least he wasn't. If anyone else has recent good feedback, great!
So, any other options on a shop that has a clue. Anyone else out in the NorCal East Bay Area?
(In my book this rules out Stead Porsche too)
07-20-2007, 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by MarkD
Recommendations?
I called Kahlers and since they have changed ownership... fogettaboudit...
The guy mumbled some stuff about 4hours labor just to do comp/leakdown, remove bumper,etc... "depends on how buried it is", he says. oh my. Remove the bumper? So, obviously they are not familiar with these cars. Or at least he wasn't. If anyone else has recent good feedback, great!
So, any other options on a shop that has a clue. Anyone else out in the NorCal East Bay Area?
(In my book this rules out Stead Porsche too)
I called Kahlers and since they have changed ownership... fogettaboudit...
The guy mumbled some stuff about 4hours labor just to do comp/leakdown, remove bumper,etc... "depends on how buried it is", he says. oh my. Remove the bumper? So, obviously they are not familiar with these cars. Or at least he wasn't. If anyone else has recent good feedback, great!
So, any other options on a shop that has a clue. Anyone else out in the NorCal East Bay Area?
(In my book this rules out Stead Porsche too)
I am going to push to have him bring it over to S-car-go... they know what they are doing.
07-20-2007, 08:59 PM
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Actually I have heard of that often: the rear bumper has to be removed to access the spark plugs for compression/leakdown test, for the 996TT. It is something I have heard repeatedly from many shops. 993TT may be the same.
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07-20-2007, 09:07 PM
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Also: check out these guys. They seem very knowledgeable and well recommended. I spoke to them before about doing a PPI. And they did mention the bumper off step. In Santa Clara, so maybe not your neck of the woods....
http://www.realmeangarage.com/
http://www.realmeangarage.com/
07-20-2007, 09:35 PM
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No way.
All the plugs are up top on a TT. Unless I missed a whole set when I changed mine.
It is still a PITA to get to the far front ones but it can be done.
All the plugs are up top on a TT. Unless I missed a whole set when I changed mine.
It is still a PITA to get to the far front ones but it can be done.
07-20-2007, 09:42 PM
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Maybe, as I said, it's a 996TT thing versus a 993TT, Tim, and the mechanic whom Mark asked is confused about what TT MarkD wants to PPI, but definitely I was being told the 996TT bumper comes off (before I got re-enlightened to the virtues of the 993....)
https://rennlist.com/forums/996-turbo-forum/345342-996tt-ppi-compression-test-bumper-comes-off.html
if Stephen at ImagineAuto says it comes off, then I believe it is true....for the 996TT, at least.
https://rennlist.com/forums/996-turbo-forum/345342-996tt-ppi-compression-test-bumper-comes-off.html
if Stephen at ImagineAuto says it comes off, then I believe it is true....for the 996TT, at least.
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07-20-2007, 11:08 PM
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ok, that clears it up. I was trying to picture how that could be on a 993tt...
Makes sense then, 996tt
I was really clear on what car I was talking about with Kahlers. I tell ya, if they don't know the model years at least as well as I do, I am not taking my car there. Or my future car
Makes sense then, 996tt
I was really clear on what car I was talking about with Kahlers. I tell ya, if they don't know the model years at least as well as I do, I am not taking my car there. Or my future car
07-21-2007, 01:37 AM
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Originally Posted by jimhsu
Tim, and the mechanic whom Mark asked is confused about what TT MarkD wants to PPI, )
I know I was a bit batty at this point of the project but I put only plugs in the top.
07-21-2007, 01:44 AM
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No Tim, you are not currently confused, the mechanic MarkD asked was confusing a 996TT needing to have the bumper off with 993TT which apparently does not.
But you looked a little confused that first picture above. I would be too if I had an engine out like that.
But you looked a little confused that first picture above. I would be too if I had an engine out like that.
07-22-2007, 07:00 PM
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I have heard confusion over 993TT spark plug count/location from dealers/shops several times now. Stock 993TTs are single plug as we all know, but I have heard of dealers telling people that doing compression/leakdown requires turbo removal, etc, and now it seems that the shop Mark was talking to confuses 993TTs w/ 996TTs. Weird.
Even if a 993TT IS twin plug like the Andial 3.8 we have in right now, you can of course do the cylinder tests from the top which of course requires removal of the IC, airbox, A/C compressor, heater blower motor, and maybe the right side muffler and some engine sheetmetal if you can't get the #6 plug from the top, but that stuff isn't that big of a deal and a competent tech should be able to do it in an hour or so. But of course replacement of the #1 and 4 bottom side plugs requires turbo removal on twin plug TTs! BTW I always do 993NA cylinder tests from the bottom since it is easier.
For the 996TT, you do have to remove the rear bumper cover, taillights, ICs/IC ducts, and some sheet metal before you can get to the coils and to the plugs themselves. But even still, I'd say this is a 2 hour job, not 4. Anyway good luck on finding a nice car!
---Chris A.
Even if a 993TT IS twin plug like the Andial 3.8 we have in right now, you can of course do the cylinder tests from the top which of course requires removal of the IC, airbox, A/C compressor, heater blower motor, and maybe the right side muffler and some engine sheetmetal if you can't get the #6 plug from the top, but that stuff isn't that big of a deal and a competent tech should be able to do it in an hour or so. But of course replacement of the #1 and 4 bottom side plugs requires turbo removal on twin plug TTs! BTW I always do 993NA cylinder tests from the bottom since it is easier.
For the 996TT, you do have to remove the rear bumper cover, taillights, ICs/IC ducts, and some sheet metal before you can get to the coils and to the plugs themselves. But even still, I'd say this is a 2 hour job, not 4. Anyway good luck on finding a nice car!
---Chris A.
07-22-2007, 07:10 PM
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Chris, good info. ty.
I am meeting the owner at S-Car-Go in San Rafael to drop the car off for leakdown and compr tests this week.
I really hope it passes.... ]
This car needs paintwork (respray front half at least) but I love black/black.
I am meeting the owner at S-Car-Go in San Rafael to drop the car off for leakdown and compr tests this week.
I really hope it passes.... ]
This car needs paintwork (respray front half at least) but I love black/black.
