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This is a repost that I originally put up on the 993 board.
I've seen a number of posts recently about the high costs of plug wires for the 993. I had the same problem with my BMW 850. Dealer wanted $1,200. I found the manufacturer that BMW uses in the US and went to them directly. They cost me $350. They use all the Beru components, etc. They make a set for the 993 for $325, and while they do not list it, they will sell a set for the 993TT for $165..
<a href="http://www.kingsborne.com/2fs.htm" target="_blank">Kingsborne Website</a>
Standard disclaimer that I have no affiliation with this firm. I just figure if we have to get new plug wires, by getting good quality and saving significant money, we will have more $$$$ for modifications!!!!
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I've seen a number of posts recently about the high costs of plug wires for the 993. I had the same problem with my BMW 850. Dealer wanted $1,200. I found the manufacturer that BMW uses in the US and went to them directly. They cost me $350. They use all the Beru components, etc. They make a set for the 993 for $325, and while they do not list it, they will sell a set for the 993TT for $165..
<a href="http://www.kingsborne.com/2fs.htm" target="_blank">Kingsborne Website</a>
Standard disclaimer that I have no affiliation with this firm. I just figure if we have to get new plug wires, by getting good quality and saving significant money, we will have more $$$$ for modifications!!!!
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Thanks Bob. Its this kind of sharing that makes Rennlist great. So... I have 53,000 miles on my TT. I'll bet I still have the original wires. Sounds like I should swap them out BEFORE I get any problems? What do you think?
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Come on Steve, this is another opportunity to take apart the top of your engine. I do it so often, I am installing a zipper. No seriously, as I have taken the ducting and fan out more times than I wish to count, I'm installing this bypass pipe.
<a href="http://www.porsche964.co.uk/technical/noheater.htm" target="_blank">web page</a>
A heater is not really a requirement here in the Bay Area in Spring, Summer, and Fall (and a lot of times Winter)...
Just do it, and while you are there I have heard that if you remove the throttle body and have the bottom cross chamber drilled straight through, that is it good for a sizable HP gain.. Always another project down the horizon.
<a href="http://www.porsche964.co.uk/technical/noheater.htm" target="_blank">web page</a>
A heater is not really a requirement here in the Bay Area in Spring, Summer, and Fall (and a lot of times Winter)...
Just do it, and while you are there I have heard that if you remove the throttle body and have the bottom cross chamber drilled straight through, that is it good for a sizable HP gain.. Always another project down the horizon.
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OK, you guys. I'm gonna buy the wire set, then come knocking on your doors for the heater bypass and throttle body gizmos. Once I get the intercooler off, can I change plugs myself? It sure was a snap back in the olden days (1970 911E).
Seriously, thanks. I think.
Seriously, thanks. I think.
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Bill,
I am just waiting for the Euro bumper to be delivered today (it is already painted), then it is off to Racers Group tomorrow to deinstall the Unichip. Then I should be OK for small projects while keeping the car drivable. Along the way there is a new intercooler coming, along with some elecronic wastegates, new high spark coil, plug wires, and some other trinkits...
I am just waiting for the Euro bumper to be delivered today (it is already painted), then it is off to Racers Group tomorrow to deinstall the Unichip. Then I should be OK for small projects while keeping the car drivable. Along the way there is a new intercooler coming, along with some elecronic wastegates, new high spark coil, plug wires, and some other trinkits...
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I called Kingsborne to ask about 993 TT wires, and they were very uncertain if they carried them. They were pretty sure its a twin-plug engine, and I'm pretty sure its not. They will research this and call me back tomorrow. Twin plug? I wish.
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What IC did you end up with?
I have not heard much about better plug wires for 993TTs, but I know in the older 911s, Magnecor makes a wire set that is about half the price of OEM and considered to be much better.
I have not heard much about better plug wires for 993TTs, but I know in the older 911s, Magnecor makes a wire set that is about half the price of OEM and considered to be much better.
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Steve,
There is a guy there that has an Australian or South African accent. He always seemed to be the only one that knew anything. He said that they could just maek up a set and since there were only 6 wires, the it would be about half of the 12 wire set or $165. These guys are BIG into relabeling to the manufacturers, and don't sell as much to the public. But I can tell you that their products are top notch.
Bill, I couldn't wait for your cooler any longer
, so I thought I would try a Protomotive intercooler
. We'll see how it goes. As far as plug wires, I bought a set of 10.4mm wires from Huntley Racing ($270) along with a nology coil and nology power amplifier. Most people want stock factory type wires. I tend to live out on the edge a tad bit
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Huntley does sell a set of Taylor 8mm wires with factory Beru fittings. These run around $300 for the 993TT. Sorry I missed you on Sunday. Hopefully we'll have another drive soon....
There is a guy there that has an Australian or South African accent. He always seemed to be the only one that knew anything. He said that they could just maek up a set and since there were only 6 wires, the it would be about half of the 12 wire set or $165. These guys are BIG into relabeling to the manufacturers, and don't sell as much to the public. But I can tell you that their products are top notch.
Bill, I couldn't wait for your cooler any longer
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Huntley does sell a set of Taylor 8mm wires with factory Beru fittings. These run around $300 for the 993TT. Sorry I missed you on Sunday. Hopefully we'll have another drive soon....
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I know my opinion probally doesn't matter since i'm a honda/hot rod guy. But I love magnecores wires, they are top notch, I have them in my honda drag car and my daily driver.
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I just put Magnecors in my 87 Carrera and there was actually a noticeable difference. I was surprised as my car is already in a great state of tune, but the new wires smoothed it out even more (plus they look really cool). I do not think Magnecor makes a set for either the 993 or the 993TT.
I ordered my wires from Clark at <a href="http://www.apexperformance.net/" target="_blank">Apex Performance</a> His prices were far less than others for Magnecor.
He also sells Momo and Corbeau seats - here is a picture of a Corbeau seat that when ordered in black leather looks a lot like the 993 sports seats (click on the black leather picture at the bottom): <a href="http://www.corbeau.com/brochure/VX2000.shtml." target="_blank">http://www.corbeau.com/brochure/VX2000.shtml.</a>
I believe his price for a pair was like $1200! You can get these with a sub belt hole. I am thinking of ordering a pair for my 87 as we use it for DEs and I would like to install 5 or 6 point harness.
I ordered my wires from Clark at <a href="http://www.apexperformance.net/" target="_blank">Apex Performance</a> His prices were far less than others for Magnecor.
He also sells Momo and Corbeau seats - here is a picture of a Corbeau seat that when ordered in black leather looks a lot like the 993 sports seats (click on the black leather picture at the bottom): <a href="http://www.corbeau.com/brochure/VX2000.shtml." target="_blank">http://www.corbeau.com/brochure/VX2000.shtml.</a>
I believe his price for a pair was like $1200! You can get these with a sub belt hole. I am thinking of ordering a pair for my 87 as we use it for DEs and I would like to install 5 or 6 point harness.
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Scott,
Everyones opinion counts. I was a hotrod guy from way back (Camaros, Trans Ams, Ram Air IV engines, 383 CI small blocks, 12:1 compression, nitrous, I better stop I'm getting excited). Working on Porsches I find takes some out of the box thinking to solve problems. For the guys that have only worked on Porsches, I feel they are truely at a disadvantage. Every Porsche guy should have a Summit Racing catalog and figure out how to use some of the cool stuff in there....
Everyones opinion counts. I was a hotrod guy from way back (Camaros, Trans Ams, Ram Air IV engines, 383 CI small blocks, 12:1 compression, nitrous, I better stop I'm getting excited). Working on Porsches I find takes some out of the box thinking to solve problems. For the guys that have only worked on Porsches, I feel they are truely at a disadvantage. Every Porsche guy should have a Summit Racing catalog and figure out how to use some of the cool stuff in there....