Where is the market.....$$, supply & demand
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rmauro ... found your ad
http://mall.rennlist.com/scripts/fea...uery=retrieval
You don't have any pictures of the car up there, just an unreadable photo of the window sticker. Also, you have a price of $79,500 on the ad. Fix the price, add some pics & the car will sell.
http://mall.rennlist.com/scripts/fea...uery=retrieval
You don't have any pictures of the car up there, just an unreadable photo of the window sticker. Also, you have a price of $79,500 on the ad. Fix the price, add some pics & the car will sell.
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I'm no expert (although I did stay at a Holday Inn) but I think you might be a bit high asking 79K. You are not RPM, Premier or Willhoit. Suckers, I mean buyers, will pay them way more than they will pay you. Dealers can represent that the car was driven by a little old lady - you probably are not one. Their cars have also been detailed to within an inch of their lives. When they say the car is flawless, it probably is. Of course if you don't ask the right questions, it will go unanswered. One member of our forum here paid top dollar of what was essentially a restored race car because he never asked if the car had ALWAYS been this flawless. You also cannot provide financing and are probably not advertising on every known national source that the highline dealers hit. I say ask 74K and negotiate from there. Personally I'd be happy with anything over 70.
For what its worth, I'm not in the camp that thinks these are appreciating assets, but you do have a nice example.
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For what its worth, I'm not in the camp that thinks these are appreciating assets, but you do have a nice example.
Greg H.
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I would agree with Greg, its too high to begin with and a immediate turn-off. Start at a mid 70's +/- and re-list your add with a picture of you car. IMO the original sticker is nice, but you might get alittle more activity with a good pic and a more reasonable starting point, and as I said it being winter for most of us when you started could have has some effects too. As long as your car is as advertised and its maint. up to date, your car will sell.
The supply of these cars is confusing still, especially the lower mileage one. It will be interesting to see if a few more become available over the next month or two. I may be one of them........
The supply of these cars is confusing still, especially the lower mileage one. It will be interesting to see if a few more become available over the next month or two. I may be one of them........
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Originally Posted by Greg H.
I'm no expert (although I did stay at a Holday Inn) but I think you might be a bit high asking 79K. You are not RPM, Premier or Willhoit. Suckers, I mean buyers, will pay them way more than they will pay you. Dealers can represent that the car was driven by a little old lady - you probably are not one. Their cars have also been detailed to within an inch of their lives. When they say the car is flawless, it probably is. Of course if you don't ask the right questions, it will go unanswered. One member of our forum here paid top dollar of what was essentially a restored race car because he never asked if the car had ALWAYS been this flawless. You also cannot provide financing and are probably not advertising on every known national source that the highline dealers hit. I say ask 74K and negotiate from there. Personally I'd be happy with anything over 70.
For what its worth, I'm not in the camp that thinks these are appreciating assets, but you do have a nice example.
Greg H.
For what its worth, I'm not in the camp that thinks these are appreciating assets, but you do have a nice example.
Greg H.
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rmauro, I might have some insight for you. I contacted you about your car shortly after you posted it for sale. I asked for some general info and pics. you emailed me a four word sentence which basically said if serious call me. I have to say it turned me off.
I understand that you might think people are wasting your time with requests for pics or just out there tire kicking but for a lot of people email is a geat way to make initial contact 1) to see if there is continued interest and 2) to see if there is some repoirte between seller and buyer.
I think if you are serious about selling the car you might want to rethink your response to email inquiries or delete your email addy from the ad. I also think you should reconsider your ad and include a pic and lower price. Just my 2 cents
I understand that you might think people are wasting your time with requests for pics or just out there tire kicking but for a lot of people email is a geat way to make initial contact 1) to see if there is continued interest and 2) to see if there is some repoirte between seller and buyer.
I think if you are serious about selling the car you might want to rethink your response to email inquiries or delete your email addy from the ad. I also think you should reconsider your ad and include a pic and lower price. Just my 2 cents
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Real buyers are not bashful to pick up the phome for detailed info and not hide behind the anonymity of the internet. I have 21 pics but they dont show the car the way it shows in person. Who buys a new pcar via internet but visits the dealer to negotiate a deal and see/touch the product. That is the way it goes I believe for most transactions. Why cant real buyers use the telephone! Or are people just surfin the net with nothing better to do than dream about their next purchase? You probably asked a bunch of irrelevant ?s - is why I responded to you the way you say- if that is so I apologize.
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The questions may have been irrelevant to you but to a buyer they may not be. I try to answer all questions no matter what I think of them.
The only time I had an issue was when someone asked me what the mileage was on my car. I told him about 74,400 but I wasn't sure on the exact amount. He gave me some snippy comment saying that I should know this. This same guy asked about the K16/24 turbos. I explained to him what it meant and he still commented that 'I don't know what is on the car. The previous owner may have put K24's on the car.' I just bit my tongue and let him speak. Even if this guy had offered to buy my car at that point in time I would have passed since he was such a d*@k.
The only time I had an issue was when someone asked me what the mileage was on my car. I told him about 74,400 but I wasn't sure on the exact amount. He gave me some snippy comment saying that I should know this. This same guy asked about the K16/24 turbos. I explained to him what it meant and he still commented that 'I don't know what is on the car. The previous owner may have put K24's on the car.' I just bit my tongue and let him speak. Even if this guy had offered to buy my car at that point in time I would have passed since he was such a d*@k.
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rmauro - It sounds like you have a very nice car, but you need to put on your sales hat if you want to get rid of it. Post some pictures here. As a recent buyer of a TT, I don't think you are out of line with your asking price. I just sold my C4S in a couple days by just mentioning that I wanted to sell on the 993 board. If your car looks as nice as you describe it, post some pics and the word will get out. Good luck.
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I sold a mint stock '96 bk/bk with 30k miles for $62K. I gave in after 3 months of dealing with tire kickers and mulitiple flakes. In all honesty, threads like this one are miserable because it brings back such bad memory about my most beloved Pcar model. But oh well, they tend creep up every other week or so.
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Originally Posted by rmauro
Real buyers are not bashful to pick up the phome for detailed info and not hide behind the anonymity of the internet. I have 21 pics but they dont show the car the way it shows in person. Who buys a new pcar via internet but visits the dealer to negotiate a deal and see/touch the product. That is the way it goes I believe for most transactions. Why cant real buyers use the telephone! Or are people just surfin the net with nothing better to do than dream about their next purchase? You probably asked a bunch of irrelevant ?s - is why I responded to you the way you say- if that is so I apologize.
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To my post above I should also add that when you call Wilhoit, Premier, RPM etc., you are treated like a king. I think there is a level of comfort in dealing with someone where no request is too large and no detail too small to take care of. I think the term is "customer service" and they are experts at it. I'll bet a lot of cars are bought from them over the internet. Although I bought mine from a private party, I never saw it in person until it was unloaded from the transporter.
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Irrelevant questions? What would those be? When I contact a seller I usually have a few basic questions concerning history and condition. Not to make this personal but in this case when I contacted you I asked if you were the original owner and where the car had been maintained and if you could please send a couple pics.
Frankly, if a seller is not interested in answering those types of questions in a quick email I don;t see much reason to follow up on the phone. Perhaps if it was a local car but for something long distance a relationship has to be built
Frankly, if a seller is not interested in answering those types of questions in a quick email I don;t see much reason to follow up on the phone. Perhaps if it was a local car but for something long distance a relationship has to be built