Stummel

hi guys,

"shk fahrzeugtechnik" installed my taller 6th gear this weekend and i talked to them about mods.

he suggested the standard with K16/24 rebuilds, ECU, oil cooler, perhaps race cats and thats it.
price was reasonable.

i asked if i can expect like 480ps from that and he said no problem, likely more.
i doubt a bit that it is significantly more than 480ps without better cam and without engine tuned ecu.

they had some track porsches in the shop, like 996 gt3 and a weird 993 that said 993 gt on it. had the gt2 arches and rear wing.

for like an additional 2k euros i could get the "small" stage from rs-tuning where i know it is a perfect package.

an alternative would be the stage 1 zc from kevin and the shk guys making the rest of the package?

what do you think?
i dont want to save on the wrong things here and would rather wait another year to save some more money.

girlfriend was not too enthusiastic about selling the sl500 for the rs-tuning mod

Felix

Isn't the 993 GT the comfort version of the GT2 with basic carpeting and perhaps AC as an option?

Rassel

Sounds like a good package, 480~490 should be doable without any other major improvements. (Have I forgotten any mod?!)

On the back of a GT2 it only says GT!

This aint too easy to tell. I think you need to specify in what direction you're heading and what goals you'd like to reach. Have you included suspension modification in your calculation?

Give her straight out of the blue, some nice flowers and tell her why you're so happy that you've met her. Then she got something to boast about to her friends about how great and sensitive your are..

Rassel

Nordschleife (20,832 km) zugelassene, serienmäßige und getunte Straßenfahrzeuge
2000 7.44,7 Gemballa Porsche GTR Biturbo 600 PS Horst von Saurma
1999 7.46 Porsche 993 GT2 shk-Fahrzeugtechnik 652 PS Horst von Saurma
2000 7.47 Porsche 996 GT2 Walter Röhrl
1997 7.49,4 Blitz Toyota Supra 650 PS Herbert Schürg
2000 7.56 Porsche 996 GT3 Walter Röhrl
2000 7.56 Porsche 996 Turbo Horst von Saurma
1999 8.02 Porsche 911 Roock Turbo RST 480 PS Horst von Saurma
2000 8.04 Lamborghini DiabloGT Horst von Saurma
2000 8.09 Ferrari F 360 Horst von Saurma
1999 8.10 Chrysler Viper GTS Horst von Saurma
2000 8.10 Audi RS 4 375 PS Horst von Saurma
2000 8.15 BMW Z8 400 PS Horst von Saurma
1999 8.18 Ferrari F 355 Horst von Saurma
1998 8.20 BMW M5 E39 400 PS BMW Testfahrer
2000 8.22 BMW M3 E46 BMW Testfahrer
2000 8.24 BMW X5 Le Mans Prototyp 700 PS BMW Testfahrer
2000 8.25 Mitsubishi Carisma Evo GT VI 280 PS Horst von Saurma
1999 8.25 Callaway C12 400 PS Horst von Saurma
1999 8.29 Mercedes Benz CLK 55 AMG Horst von Saurma
1999 8.32 Porsche Boxster S Horst von Saurma
1999 8.37 Subaru Impreza GT Horst von Saurma
1998 8.37 Maserati 3200 GT Horst von Saurma
2000 8.42 Lotus Exige Horst von Saurma
1998 8.49 Jaguar XKR Coupé 363 PS Horst von Saurma
1992 8.51 Mercedes Benz 190 E AMG 3.2 Michael Schumacher
1992 8.54 Mercedes Benz 190 E Evolution II Michael Schumacher
1987 9.26 Porsche 911 Carrera AutoBild
9.30 Toyota MR2 AutoBild
1987 9.35 BMW M3 E30 200 PS Auto Motor und Sport
1987 9.57 Opel Omega 3000 Auto Motor und Sport
1998 10.50 VW Passat Bj. 1982 90 PS Walter, das bin ich

Source: http://www.planet-walter.de/

Stummel

thanks rassel, i'll give it a try. (the girlfriend-sensitive thing, i mean)

dont really know what are my goals with the turbo. just had my first track day. but i like it even more to drive top-speed on the autobahn for long periods of time. so i need more low-end and also more top-end power


just talked to shk about understeer with the turbo and installing my rs rear-sway bar.
he said ironicaly with the turbo you need a stiffer front bar from the rs to prevent dive-in.
for the rear i would need an gt2 bar, because the rs-bar had only 18mm.

is that true? he said he did a lot of turbos and all of them got rid of understeer.

Stummel

thank you again rasel for that list.

i hoped for something like that

Stummel

any bets on what top-speed my stock 430ps car will bring with the taller 6th gear?

before was 314kph slightly downhill and 310kph on flat.

Rassel

Depends on how tall the gear is!
I'm sure when the americans wake up, you'll get good answers about chassi modifications.

Stummel

gear is 0.7 vs. 0.735 stock i think.

~ 5%. question is if the engine has enough power. i should be more in the peak-power rpm band though with the taller gear. i will see...

TB993tt

The 652hp @7050rpm (on a rolling road) SHK GT2 was in fact a '96 Carrera RS with GT2 body mods and the turbo 4 all wheel drive transmission which weighed in at 1270kg - It was nicknamed "Black Snake" and featured Turbo-Tapp turbos, polished ports, reprofiled valves and new cams, Cargraphic I/C and cats and exhaust and the ECU was done by Sportec (or whoever worked for them back then)
The engine was red lined at 7850rpm and gave 812NM @4950rpm it did 0-100kph in 3.5s and 0-200kph in 9.0s with a top speed of 342kph - All this infor is from 911 & Porsche World April 2000.
All sounds good doesn't it ?
Well according to a reliable source (PM me if you want details Stummel) the engine reffered to above was removed and an RS Tuning 520hp engine (of the period) was put in as the owner tried an RS equipped 993tt and much preffered the experience.

Jean

Stummel, you would get around 20KPH more top speed at the same RPM.

The larger sway bars do not have any impact on the nose diving, if that is what you meant.

Stummel

Jean, i think that 5% of 300kph is like 15kph.
But the question is if the stock engine has enough power to reach the same RPM.

I dont know if they meant nose diving.
i guess they meant the movement that you also want to prevent by installing a strut brace.
i dont know the word for that... (the point where the struts mount???)

as always, TB made me think again... you get what you pay for

Thank you guys

pagani

I believe the black snake is featured in the dutch porsche magazine's rs porsche

Stummel

as this thread has been uped again, I may inform those interested in SHK that the owner Mr. Weishaupt died this year.

Felix

Now for sale - see http://www.germansportscars.net/GB/c...11-993-rs/429/