Is it worth building a 993 gt2 with all original parts
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I always wonder if is economically doable on a 993tt sunroof delete shell. A friend suggested that. If you going to call a 993gt2 , then it should be everything in it or not do the job. Can we discuss this in a respectful manner. What’s your suggestion. ???
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Its been done... Jochen Rohr build probably the most accurate rendition of a GT2 several years ago but he had amassed most of the parts necessary from his racing days.
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I don't see the point today... Even if you managed to source all of the original Porsche parts to build a GT2, you still won't have a true GT2. You will have a cool 993 but4 the sum of its parts will always be more valuable than the car as a whole
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I don't see the point today... Even if you managed to source all of the original Porsche parts to build a GT2, you still won't have a true GT2. You will have a cool 993 but4 the sum of its parts will always be more valuable than the car as a whole
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Its been done... Jochen Rohr build probably the most accurate rendition of a GT2 several years ago but he had amassed most of the parts necessary from his racing days.
![](https://hosting.photobucket.com/albums/e155/IlluminatingConcepts/Monterey%2009/.highres/DSC06726.jpg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds)
I don't see the point today... Even if you managed to source all of the original Porsche parts to build a GT2, you still won't have a true GT2. You will have a cool 993 but4 the sum of its parts will always be more valuable than the car as a whole
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I don't see the point today... Even if you managed to source all of the original Porsche parts to build a GT2, you still won't have a true GT2. You will have a cool 993 but4 the sum of its parts will always be more valuable than the car as a whole
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.👍 Did they ever posted all parts it took. The rear wing as a factory one, it’s price very high this days. I found a few pieces for a friend years ago. I have to say that he’s very close. This guy went from team to team buying parts 20years ago. I went true the parts manual from his motorsports book, there’s so much is overwhelming. But like I said he’s close.
Description:
1996 Porsche 993 GT2 “Tool room copy”The car was built using a pristine matching numbers 1996 Porsche 993 Turbo black/black.
The car was built having an original 993 GT2 as an example by a team of renowned German Porsche specialists over a period of four years at spare no expense using original Porsche parts.
The attention to detail is extraordinary and the result is spectacular. This is certainly the best 993 GT2 reproduction in the world. Fully serviced with owner's manual, service book and GT2 original owner's manual.
Bodywork
Full factory GT2 original bodykit
Aluminium doors
Aluminium front trunk lid
Rear original GT2 wing
Sunroof delete
Sunroof drain channels delete
Headlight washers delete
Rear wiper delete
New heat shields
GT2 front and rear spoiler.
RS rear light panel
RS front windshield
RS rear windshield (3mm thick glass, no defrost) RS thin door glasses
RS rear side thin glasses
New rubber seals
RS side mirrors
RS windshield front washer 2 liters reservoir
Roof mounted third brake light delete
Matter bolted rollcage
92 liters fuel tank
“Liteblox” high performance lightweight battery 1.7 kg
Lifeline Zero 360 Novec 1kg handheld fire extinguisher kg
Interior
Airbags delete
Central lock delete
Radio delete
Rear seats delete
Unnecessary wiring delete
RS mirrors
RS door panel trim
OEM manual windows mounting
RS Footwell lighting
OEM non-airbag center console
OEM non-airbag lower dash & ashtray
OEM non-airbag fixed glove box door
RS light carpet with original GT logo
RS fine grain leather smooth headliner
RS seats with OEM mounting hardware
OEM dashboard without light intensity button
OEM dashboard panel without light leveling system
RS steering wheel
RS steering wheel column cover
RS shift ****
RS center storage compartment
RS fine grain leather door cards & hardware
RS front trunk carpet
RS battery cut off switch plate
Schroth Racing four points red harnesses
Engine
3.6 turbo engine motor fully rebuilt. 485 bhp
Stainless steel light exhaust with original tips
Transmission
All Wheel Drive AWD delete. Only rear wheel drive.
RS transmission mount
RS short shifter and rod
New OEM clutch & RS lightweight flywheel
New rear axles
Brakes
GT2 brake system
GT2 front and rear calipers & rotors Stainless steel brake lines
Suspension
Original OEM GT2 suspension
RS front uprights
RS tie rods
RS tie rod ends
RS front strut bar
RS suspension bushings, front & rear
RS front camber plates and rear shock mounts.
Wheels
Speedline for Porsche OEM 993 GT2 magnesium wheels Michelin Pilot Sport for Porsche tires
Dry weight: 1260 kg (fully loaded 1338kg measured)
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I guess your goal is part of the answer. It will not have OEM pedigree, so is an accurate GT2 "reproduction" of more value to you than a better GT2 "tribute" with newer tech / less costly 3rd party "tribute" parts?
But it is a free market to do as you choose. Enjoy the journey which ever path you take. Rarely is the investments in upgrades (OEM or 3rd Party) recovered at resale.
But it is a free market to do as you choose. Enjoy the journey which ever path you take. Rarely is the investments in upgrades (OEM or 3rd Party) recovered at resale.
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I guess we never know what the engine specs where, same in transmission . My guy had a real transmission out of a gt2 that was a spare g50/54 yes with external pump.
here’s a list posted by seller of car years ago:
The car was built using a pristine matching numbers 1996 Porsche 993 Turbo black/black.
The car was built having an original 993 GT2 as an example by a team of renowned German Porsche specialists over a period of four years at spare no expense using original Porsche parts.
The attention to detail is extraordinary and the result is spectacular. This is certainly the best 993 GT2 reproduction in the world. Fully serviced with owner's manual, service book and GT2 original owner's manual.
Bodywork
Full factory GT2 original bodykit
Aluminium doors
Aluminium front trunk lid
Rear original GT2 wing
Sunroof delete
Sunroof drain channels delete
Headlight washers delete
Rear wiper delete
New heat shields
GT2 front and rear spoiler.
RS rear light panel
RS front windshield
RS rear windshield (3mm thick glass, no defrost) RS thin door glasses
RS rear side thin glasses
New rubber seals
RS side mirrors
RS windshield front washer 2 liters reservoir
Roof mounted third brake light delete
Matter bolted rollcage
92 liters fuel tank
“Liteblox” high performance lightweight battery 1.7 kg
Lifeline Zero 360 Novec 1kg handheld fire extinguisher kg
Interior
Airbags delete
Central lock delete
Radio delete
Rear seats delete
Unnecessary wiring delete
RS mirrors
RS door panel trim
OEM manual windows mounting
RS Footwell lighting
OEM non-airbag center console
OEM non-airbag lower dash & ashtray
OEM non-airbag fixed glove box door
RS light carpet with original GT logo
RS fine grain leather smooth headliner
RS seats with OEM mounting hardware
OEM dashboard without light intensity button
OEM dashboard panel without light leveling system
RS steering wheel
RS steering wheel column cover
RS shift ****
RS center storage compartment
RS fine grain leather door cards & hardware
RS front trunk carpet
RS battery cut off switch plate
Schroth Racing four points red harnesses
Engine
3.6 turbo engine motor fully rebuilt. 485 bhp
Stainless steel light exhaust with original tips
Transmission
All Wheel Drive AWD delete. Only rear wheel drive.
RS transmission mount
RS short shifter and rod
New OEM clutch & RS lightweight flywheel
New rear axles
Brakes
GT2 brake system
GT2 front and rear calipers & rotors Stainless steel brake lines
Suspension
Original OEM GT2 suspension
RS front uprights
RS tie rods
RS tie rod ends
RS front strut bar
RS suspension bushings, front & rear
RS front camber plates and rear shock mounts.
Wheels
Speedline for Porsche OEM 993 GT2 magnesium wheels Michelin Pilot Sport for Porsche tires
Dry weight: 1260 kg (fully loaded 1338kg measured)
Description:
1996 Porsche 993 GT2 “Tool room copy”The car was built using a pristine matching numbers 1996 Porsche 993 Turbo black/black.
The car was built having an original 993 GT2 as an example by a team of renowned German Porsche specialists over a period of four years at spare no expense using original Porsche parts.
The attention to detail is extraordinary and the result is spectacular. This is certainly the best 993 GT2 reproduction in the world. Fully serviced with owner's manual, service book and GT2 original owner's manual.
Bodywork
Full factory GT2 original bodykit
Aluminium doors
Aluminium front trunk lid
Rear original GT2 wing
Sunroof delete
Sunroof drain channels delete
Headlight washers delete
Rear wiper delete
New heat shields
GT2 front and rear spoiler.
RS rear light panel
RS front windshield
RS rear windshield (3mm thick glass, no defrost) RS thin door glasses
RS rear side thin glasses
New rubber seals
RS side mirrors
RS windshield front washer 2 liters reservoir
Roof mounted third brake light delete
Matter bolted rollcage
92 liters fuel tank
“Liteblox” high performance lightweight battery 1.7 kg
Lifeline Zero 360 Novec 1kg handheld fire extinguisher kg
Interior
Airbags delete
Central lock delete
Radio delete
Rear seats delete
Unnecessary wiring delete
RS mirrors
RS door panel trim
OEM manual windows mounting
RS Footwell lighting
OEM non-airbag center console
OEM non-airbag lower dash & ashtray
OEM non-airbag fixed glove box door
RS light carpet with original GT logo
RS fine grain leather smooth headliner
RS seats with OEM mounting hardware
OEM dashboard without light intensity button
OEM dashboard panel without light leveling system
RS steering wheel
RS steering wheel column cover
RS shift ****
RS center storage compartment
RS fine grain leather door cards & hardware
RS front trunk carpet
RS battery cut off switch plate
Schroth Racing four points red harnesses
Engine
3.6 turbo engine motor fully rebuilt. 485 bhp
Stainless steel light exhaust with original tips
Transmission
All Wheel Drive AWD delete. Only rear wheel drive.
RS transmission mount
RS short shifter and rod
New OEM clutch & RS lightweight flywheel
New rear axles
Brakes
GT2 brake system
GT2 front and rear calipers & rotors Stainless steel brake lines
Suspension
Original OEM GT2 suspension
RS front uprights
RS tie rods
RS tie rod ends
RS front strut bar
RS suspension bushings, front & rear
RS front camber plates and rear shock mounts.
Wheels
Speedline for Porsche OEM 993 GT2 magnesium wheels Michelin Pilot Sport for Porsche tires
Dry weight: 1260 kg (fully loaded 1338kg measured)
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If is not build by Porsche they are all mods , you can only do this with original parts not like the restomod , they go all out in rendering their version not backed up by Porsche, you have one with a wide body that look like a peanut butter allergy, the other one took all 964 and dump a bunch of money in it to make their own idea, then the cigarette smoking bandit with a hack saw doing absolutely nothing but ruined this cars. You have to realize that Porsche made the 993 with everything a super car needed. To the point that you go to the track with very little you can be where other car manufacturers spends millions to try to get near of what’s a 993 can do. 993 a true work of art as it sits. Everything else is just poor imagination. Example: lower the car , you just made the rear axles work harder therefore shortening their life. big brakes, big mistake, to the ignorant owner that read an article of a aftermarket company claiming you get better stopping power, yes is true but what they fell to say was only awd n turbo with the powerful hydraulics are the aplicación because regular brakes will over Heat the fluid to the point of boiling to loose brakes in the track. There’s a ton of aftermarket items that look good but when they are apply to the wrong application now all the problems show up. If upgrades have no value at time of sell , then why all this restomod people make so much money of ignorant hype feed buyers. If you want to verify what I just said , then talk to a real Porsche gt2 racer that have all the inside as of the amazing car Porsche build.
I guess your goal is part of the answer. It will not have OEM pedigree, so is an accurate GT2 "reproduction" of more value to you than a better GT2 "tribute" with newer tech / less costly 3rd party "tribute" parts?
But it is a free market to do as you choose. Enjoy the journey which ever path you take. Rarely is the investments in upgrades (OEM or 3rd Party) recovered at resale.
But it is a free market to do as you choose. Enjoy the journey which ever path you take. Rarely is the investments in upgrades (OEM or 3rd Party) recovered at resale.
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If is not build by Porsche they are all mods , you can only do this with original parts not like the restomod , they go all out in rendering their version not backed up by Porsche, you have one with a wide body that look like a peanut butter allergy, the other one took all 964 and dump a bunch of money in it to make their own idea, then the cigarette smoking bandit with a hack saw doing absolutely nothing but ruined this cars. You have to realize that Porsche made the 993 with everything a super car needed. To the point that you go to the track with very little you can be where other car manufacturers spends millions to try to get near of what’s a 993 can do. 993 a true work of art as it sits. Everything else is just poor imagination. Example: lower the car , you just made the rear axles work harder therefore shortening their life. big brakes, big mistake, to the ignorant owner that read an article of a aftermarket company claiming you get better stopping power, yes is true but what they fell to say was only awd n turbo with the powerful hydraulics are the aplicación because regular brakes will over Heat the fluid to the point of boiling to loose brakes in the track. There’s a ton of aftermarket items that look good but when they are apply to the wrong application now all the problems show up. If upgrades have no value at time of sell , then why all this restomod people make so much money of ignorant hype feed buyers. If you want to verify what I just said , then talk to a real Porsche gt2 racer that have all the inside as of the amazing car Porsche build.
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Unless the post what tge engine n transmission where, is hard to claim that.
Its been done... Jochen Rohr build probably the most accurate rendition of a GT2 several years ago but he had amassed most of the parts necessary from his racing days.
![](https://hosting.photobucket.com/albums/e155/IlluminatingConcepts/Monterey%2009/.highres/DSC06726.jpg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds)
I don't see the point today... Even if you managed to source all of the original Porsche parts to build a GT2, you still won't have a true GT2. You will have a cool 993 but4 the sum of its parts will always be more valuable than the car as a whole
![](https://hosting.photobucket.com/albums/e155/IlluminatingConcepts/Monterey%2009/.highres/DSC06718.jpg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds)
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I don't see the point today... Even if you managed to source all of the original Porsche parts to build a GT2, you still won't have a true GT2. You will have a cool 993 but4 the sum of its parts will always be more valuable than the car as a whole
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And you will never have the right vin and tub with whatever you end up building. We can go around and around on this all day. Not sure why this is really a conversation piece. The closest one "non GT2 but a GT2" is that yellow one in Switzerland but still from the factory. Think it was for sale a while ago
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The street GT2 and CS engine share the ECU and K24 turbo's from the Turbo S model rated at 450hp, same part numbers and same ROW engine. The original factory GT2 tail is very heavy and very expensive, your better of buying a good quality lighter fibreglass tail from FSH in Germany and keep the original thicker 993 glass to compensate the weight. The key parts are the aluminum doors and hood to save the bulk of the weight. Like chsu74 said, if you don't have the original tub from a GT2 it will never be a real GT2 even with the factory parts package.
Being there, done that.
On 2nd note I have a G50/54 and no pump and external cooler, the G50/54 as a special RWD nose housing with internal oiling passage that feeds oil in the middle of the main shaft like the AWD turbo trans, the 993 C2 G50 doesn't have that oiling feature, also the GT2 EVO and R! as the tranny pump and cooler.
Still lots of street factory 993 GT2 original parts are still available, unfortunately the inner wheel well plastic shrouds are NLA now days.
Being there, done that.
On 2nd note I have a G50/54 and no pump and external cooler, the G50/54 as a special RWD nose housing with internal oiling passage that feeds oil in the middle of the main shaft like the AWD turbo trans, the 993 C2 G50 doesn't have that oiling feature, also the GT2 EVO and R! as the tranny pump and cooler.
Still lots of street factory 993 GT2 original parts are still available, unfortunately the inner wheel well plastic shrouds are NLA now days.
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Not sure what the debate is “ is it financially worth it to build a GT2 from factory parts “ ? Since I also have a tribute mine being done right around the time Jochens was done some five or more years back I’d have to say HELL YES ! I am financially still able to do other things I prefer to do and also have a GT2 clone damn close built on a ‘96 turbo .
I don’t care to go into all the upgrades and alterations to my specific vehicle but needless to say the exterior , interior , suspension and some necessary mechanical 2WD etc
were brought to either RS or GT level and yes it is an incredible experience to drive without the necessary financial hit of a real one should you get the chance to find one ..Bert
I don’t care to go into all the upgrades and alterations to my specific vehicle but needless to say the exterior , interior , suspension and some necessary mechanical 2WD etc
were brought to either RS or GT level and yes it is an incredible experience to drive without the necessary financial hit of a real one should you get the chance to find one ..Bert
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Not sure what the debate is “ is it financially worth it to build a GT2 from factory parts “ ? Since I also have a tribute mine being done right around the time Jochens was done some five or more years back I’d have to say HELL YES ! I am financially still able to do other things I prefer to do and also have a GT2 clone damn close built on a ‘96 turbo .
I don’t care to go into all the upgrades and alterations to my specific vehicle but needless to say the exterior , interior , suspension and some necessary mechanical 2WD etc
were brought to either RS or GT level and yes it is an incredible experience to drive without the necessary financial hit of a real one should you get the chance to find one ..Bert
I don’t care to go into all the upgrades and alterations to my specific vehicle but needless to say the exterior , interior , suspension and some necessary mechanical 2WD etc
were brought to either RS or GT level and yes it is an incredible experience to drive without the necessary financial hit of a real one should you get the chance to find one ..Bert
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