993 sales seem to have dramatically slowed
07-23-2017, 02:38 AM
#106
Rennlist Member
As an ex 993 owner, I am constantly looking to get back into one, and I am following the market just like many other Rennlisters.
My thoughts on all previous pages and discussions is that the market was overvalued, and it is normal that it is going down after an 'up'.
Paying $50k- $60k- $70k for a higher mileage normal 993 is simply a lot of money for a lot of people and unsustainable.
When the market gets back to $30k-$35k for a regular 993, is where I think a lot of people can write a check, and enjoy a 993.
My thoughts on all previous pages and discussions is that the market was overvalued, and it is normal that it is going down after an 'up'.
Paying $50k- $60k- $70k for a higher mileage normal 993 is simply a lot of money for a lot of people and unsustainable.
When the market gets back to $30k-$35k for a regular 993, is where I think a lot of people can write a check, and enjoy a 993.
07-23-2017, 04:11 AM
#107
As an ex 993 owner, I am constantly looking to get back into one, and I am following the market just like many other Rennlisters.
My thoughts on all previous pages and discussions is that the market was overvalued, and it is normal that it is going down after an 'up'.
Paying $50k- $60k- $70k for a higher mileage normal 993 is simply a lot of money for a lot of people and unsustainable.
When the market gets back to $30k-$35k for a regular 993, is where I think a lot of people can write a check, and enjoy a 993.
My thoughts on all previous pages and discussions is that the market was overvalued, and it is normal that it is going down after an 'up'.
Paying $50k- $60k- $70k for a higher mileage normal 993 is simply a lot of money for a lot of people and unsustainable.
When the market gets back to $30k-$35k for a regular 993, is where I think a lot of people can write a check, and enjoy a 993.
07-23-2017, 11:21 AM
#108
Three Wheelin'
You can still find a good 993 with higher miles for low 40s and I've seen one or two go for high 30s. They are out there if you search hard and do your due diligence.
Once you buy you'll probably spend at least 10k to get it where you want it though. I think 50k is the lower limit (regardless of miles) for a 993 driver in great shape. Either you pay up front or you buy low and pay to get it exactly where you want it.
Once you buy you'll probably spend at least 10k to get it where you want it though. I think 50k is the lower limit (regardless of miles) for a 993 driver in great shape. Either you pay up front or you buy low and pay to get it exactly where you want it.
07-23-2017, 12:30 PM
#109
SJW, a Carin' kinda guy
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The problem with the $40ish priced cars is whether you are buying a well kept corrosion free no stories car or something that has been neglected and becomes a $50ish car really quickly. I did not look at a ton of 993s, but the "deals" I did look at were not really deals because they had issues. Also, that the market prices coupes over cabs inured to my benefit when I was looking, but worked against me because I really wanted a cab and there were a lot fewer of them around. The only sacrifice I made was I got a C4 rather than a C2 (I was looking for a C2 and, in fact, it was the only C4 I looked at), but now that I have it, I am actually happier I got the C4. Without the nannies of the newer cars, the AWD should make it safer especially if it ever gets caught in rain. By no means to I think I got a great price or anything like that, but I got a great car at a fair price which IMHO is much better than a great deal on a not so great car.
It is funny to me that the extra cost of a cab and C4 actually made the car cost less used.
It is funny to me that the extra cost of a cab and C4 actually made the car cost less used.
07-23-2017, 02:17 PM
#110
Three Wheelin'
The problem with the $40ish priced cars is whether you are buying a well kept corrosion free no stories car or something that has been neglected and becomes a $50ish car really quickly. I did not look at a ton of 993s, but the "deals" I did look at were not really deals because they had issues. Also, that the market prices coupes over cabs inured to my benefit when I was looking, but worked against me because I really wanted a cab and there were a lot fewer of them around. The only sacrifice I made was I got a C4 rather than a C2 (I was looking for a C2 and, in fact, it was the only C4 I looked at), but now that I have it, I am actually happier I got the C4. Without the nannies of the newer cars, the AWD should make it safer especially if it ever gets caught in rain. By no means to I think I got a great price or anything like that, but I got a great car at a fair price which IMHO is much better than a great deal on a not so great car.
It is funny to me that the extra cost of a cab and C4 actually made the car cost less used.
It is funny to me that the extra cost of a cab and C4 actually made the car cost less used.
.Enjoy the car and happy motoring.
07-23-2017, 02:54 PM
#111
Instructor
In the spirit of a post from yesterday....
You should come to terms with the fact that you might never sell your 993.
07-23-2017, 06:17 PM
#112
SJW, a Carin' kinda guy
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Coming from an Elise and then an Exige S (where I used an Elise softtop -- no mods necessary just swaps right in) open air motoring was key for me. I can't see spending an extra $7k for a C4 or extra $12k for a cab on a new 991, but when it is a used 993 I was happy to have both and save a few dollars.
07-23-2017, 06:25 PM
#113
I'm in the market for another 993 S, 4S or Turbo. Glacier white only, high end driver or garage queen.
When the market is falling or soft like it is now, there isn't an urgency to buy. There aren't multiple buyers for same car, cars sit longer, you don't have to settle for less than what you're looking for. Many sellers who bought recently, and got in too high are in panic mode trying to sell for inflated prices to recoup $$ they couldn't afford it in the first place.
I've owned many of these, now spend my time buying horses. I look forward to buying a 993 again whenever the dust settles.
When the market is falling or soft like it is now, there isn't an urgency to buy. There aren't multiple buyers for same car, cars sit longer, you don't have to settle for less than what you're looking for. Many sellers who bought recently, and got in too high are in panic mode trying to sell for inflated prices to recoup $$ they couldn't afford it in the first place.
I've owned many of these, now spend my time buying horses. I look forward to buying a 993 again whenever the dust settles.
07-23-2017, 08:34 PM
#115
You can still find a good 993 with higher miles for low 40s and I've seen one or two go for high 30s. They are out there if you search hard and do your due diligence.
Once you buy you'll probably spend at least 10k to get it where you want it though. I think 50k is the lower limit (regardless of miles) for a 993 driver in great shape. Either you pay up front or you buy low and pay to get it exactly where you want it.
Once you buy you'll probably spend at least 10k to get it where you want it though. I think 50k is the lower limit (regardless of miles) for a 993 driver in great shape. Either you pay up front or you buy low and pay to get it exactly where you want it.
...And thats it in a nutshell
07-26-2017, 04:13 AM
#116
You can still find a good 993 with higher miles for low 40s and I've seen one or two go for high 30s. They are out there if you search hard and do your due diligence.
Once you buy you'll probably spend at least 10k to get it where you want it though. I think 50k is the lower limit (regardless of miles) for a 993 driver in great shape. Either you pay up front or you buy low and pay to get it exactly where you want it.
Once you buy you'll probably spend at least 10k to get it where you want it though. I think 50k is the lower limit (regardless of miles) for a 993 driver in great shape. Either you pay up front or you buy low and pay to get it exactly where you want it.
08-01-2017, 07:35 AM
#117
Its the end of gasoline that will kill the 993 and all the other cars we admire. Young people today will opt for a self driving electric appliance. Everything in their lives will be bought online and delivered by Amazon. The individual freedom that came with a car is no longer the trend in a collective group think society. Enjoy them while we've got them.
(First post - too old to learn proper RL etiquette.
08-01-2017, 10:24 AM
#119
Rennlist Member
This msg has IQ of 180. Shame but good cars will be garage queens. I am 74 and looking for 17th Porsche. Have 3 mid engine cars in garage. Just sold beautiful '04 Guards Red Turbo x50 Cab. Want a 993 C2 coupe in red, yellow, or black. Maybe settle for C4S. Must be top quality car with 50k miles or less from owner **** as I.
(First post - too old to learn proper RL etiquette.
(First post - too old to learn proper RL etiquette.
Keep driving !
08-01-2017, 03:24 PM
#120
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Hell I paid $97K +tax with 28,700 miles a year ago from Porsche Classic (currently at 30,350) and still sunk another $20K YTD to get mine right. I am a bit OCD though ..... and did cosmetics, exhaust tips wide ovals FabSpeed, OEM Turbo S Front Lip, OEM Turbo S Spoiler, 30K major service, misc replacement items, New Sunroof Motor, New Sunroof Stitched Leather Panel, Driver's side check strap, New Bilstein Suspension & bits, Corner Balance / Geometry Set Up, New Tires, RS Red Seat Belts, RS Motor Mounds, RS Golden Shift Rod, Fluid Flushes and some other stuff..... I would say it's 9.5 out of 10 with zero engine oil sweat or leaks. Car and engine is so clean you eat off of it. Zero oil consumption. Runs 100%. Next up Porsche Classic Radio, Rennline Drilled Aluminum Floorboard & Aluminum Pedals, Front Strut Brace. I am of the mindset... buy the best 993 you can find and afford as a solid base.