Notices
993 Forum 1995-1998

Convertable Top hinge marks-Need feedback

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old May 29, 2017 | 10:17 AM
  #1  
Rockit's Avatar
Rockit
Thread Starter
Racer
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Apr 2015
Posts: 477
Likes: 3
From: Central, NJ
Default Convertable Top hinge marks-Need feedback

You guys with Cabs...

My top is new Porsche, I've had it for just over a year. I always get deep hinge impressions, 2 on each side on the edge about to the rear of the door glass.

Yesterday I just noticed a small tear starting.

Does your tops also do this? Not the tear but deep hinge marks.

I'm thinking the top was not installed right or the hinges were bent.
Reply
Old May 29, 2017 | 12:27 PM
  #2  
Rockit's Avatar
Rockit
Thread Starter
Racer
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Apr 2015
Posts: 477
Likes: 3
From: Central, NJ
Default

993%20120_zps658kr3jz.jpg
Reply
Old May 29, 2017 | 01:31 PM
  #3  
Holytin's Avatar
Holytin
Pro
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Nov 2012
Posts: 609
Likes: 30
From: The Blue Ridge Mountains
Default

So that is a new top canvas ay around 1 year of age?? Mine was replaced in 2006 not OEM but GAAH. Looks still fine - no issues. Who installed?
Reply
Old May 29, 2017 | 01:39 PM
  #4  
Disraeli's Avatar
Disraeli
Racer
 
Joined: Sep 2016
Posts: 271
Likes: 1
From: Denver, CO
Default

Not sure what is going on there, Rockit. Here are a couple of shots of my now 19 1/2 year old top.

You can see the an impression on the passenger's side because I've been driving around top down this weekend but if I leave it up for a day or two and use some cab conditioner on it it goes away.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg
20170529_101445.jpg (354.7 KB, 620 views)
File Type: jpg
20170529_101511.jpg (358.8 KB, 618 views)
Reply
Old May 29, 2017 | 08:45 PM
  #5  
Holytin's Avatar
Holytin
Pro
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Nov 2012
Posts: 609
Likes: 30
From: The Blue Ridge Mountains
Default

Originally Posted by Disraeli
Not sure what is going on there, Rockit. Here are a couple of shots of my now 19 1/2 year old top.

You can see the an impression on the passenger's side because I've been driving around top down this weekend but if I leave it up for a day or two and use some cab conditioner on it it goes away.
Those marks look like indentations caused by the pins (left/right) when the canvas does not fold correctly and get's pinched. Happened to me once and I always stop the top 3/4 down to ensure the top is folded correctly. Most likely that's what happened and not hinge marks. See a similar mark on the pictures provided with the previous post, especially on the passenger side.
Reply
Old May 29, 2017 | 09:10 PM
  #6  
Rockit's Avatar
Rockit
Thread Starter
Racer
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Apr 2015
Posts: 477
Likes: 3
From: Central, NJ
Default

Thanks for the help.....I'll try and stop the roof 3/4 and keep it away for the hinges. Sucks..brand new roof and headliner.
Reply
Old May 30, 2017 | 12:34 AM
  #7  
Disraeli's Avatar
Disraeli
Racer
 
Joined: Sep 2016
Posts: 271
Likes: 1
From: Denver, CO
Default

Originally Posted by Holytin
Those marks look like indentations caused by the pins (left/right) when the canvas does not fold correctly and get's pinched. Happened to me once and I always stop the top 3/4 down to ensure the top is folded correctly. Most likely that's what happened and not hinge marks. See a similar mark on the pictures provided with the previous post, especially on the passenger side.
Good to know, I'll try it the next couple of times to see what that looks like.
Reply
Old May 30, 2017 | 05:30 PM
  #8  
2RedPorsche's Avatar
2RedPorsche
Burning Brakes
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 1,092
Likes: 41
From: Mississauga, Ontario
Default

Originally Posted by Holytin
Those marks look like indentations caused by the pins (left/right) when the canvas does not fold correctly and get's pinched. Happened to me once and I always stop the top 3/4 down to ensure the top is folded correctly. Most likely that's what happened and not hinge marks. See a similar mark on the pictures provided with the previous post, especially on the passenger side.
If these are from the pins as Holytin is suggesting it has nothing to do with hinges.
The pins are nasty big spikes sticking up just waiting for your roof so that they can puncture it, argh!
There is a bar that is pulled back by elastic straps that in turn pulls the canvas back out of the way of the pins. However it doesn't always happen that way due to the loss of elasticity in those straps with time.
It is the bar that Holytin is saying to watch and make sure it's doing its job properly.
I know because I have matching holes through the canvas on both sides of my roof!
Reply
Rennlist Stories

The Best Porsche Posts for Porsche Enthusiasts

story-0

9 Vehicles Porsche Helped Engineer that Aren't Porsches

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

9 Features and Characteristics That Only Porsche People Understand

 Verdad Gallardo
story-2

I've Written 500 Rennlist Articles: Here's How Porsche Has Changed Along the Way

 Joe Kucinski
story-3

10 Most Unnecessary Porsches Ever Built (And Why We Love Them)

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

Porsche 911 GT3 S/C vs 718 Spyder RS: 10 Categories, One Winner

 Joe Kucinski
story-5

This Builder Is Turning Heads With Its Slantnose 911 Creation

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

Porsche 911 GT3 Artisan Edition Pays Homage to Japanese Culture

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

Porsche Reveals Coupe Variant of the Electric Cayenne With a Fresh Look

 Verdad Gallardo
story-8

10 Porsche Colors That Have More Personality Than Most People

 Verdad Gallardo
story-9

Guntherwerks' Final Speedster Creation Is the Ultimate Porsche Restomod

 Verdad Gallardo
Old May 30, 2017 | 06:15 PM
  #9  
Rockit's Avatar
Rockit
Thread Starter
Racer
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Apr 2015
Posts: 477
Likes: 3
From: Central, NJ
Default

Originally Posted by 2RedPorsche
If these are from the pins as Holytin is suggesting it has nothing to do with hinges.
The pins are nasty big spikes sticking up just waiting for your roof so that they can puncture it, argh!
There is a bar that is pulled back by elastic straps that in turn pulls the canvas back out of the way of the pins. However it doesn't always happen that way due to the loss of elasticity in those straps with time.
It is the bar that Holytin is saying to watch and make sure it's doing its job properly.
I know because I have matching holes through the canvas on both sides of my roof!
Thanks...did you happen to take any pictures ??? not of the hole but the strape...my roof is new and I guarantee its not there if it not part of the roof.
Reply
Old May 30, 2017 | 07:15 PM
  #10  
e9stibi's Avatar
e9stibi
Drifting
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 2,432
Likes: 35
From: Hannover
Default

Root cause are the elastic straps that are broken or do not provide the correct tension to pull the canvas away from the poles while the top closes. I would expect that a professional installer gets this right and than it lasts for more than just 1 year.

Would be interested to see more pics of the strap in several positions of roof opening.
Reply
Old May 31, 2017 | 12:55 AM
  #11  
vincer77's Avatar
vincer77
Rennlist Member
 
Joined: Jul 2009
Posts: 7,234
Likes: 10
From: Costa Mesa, CA
Default

Another reason why manual operation is my preferred option. If you have to be out of the car to make sure it folds correctly, no reason to use a switch. You can't reach the switch and fold the top properly at the same time.
Reply
Old May 31, 2017 | 08:48 AM
  #12  
Holytin's Avatar
Holytin
Pro
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Nov 2012
Posts: 609
Likes: 30
From: The Blue Ridge Mountains
Default

Originally Posted by vincer77
Another reason why manual operation is my preferred option. If you have to be out of the car to make sure it folds correctly, no reason to use a switch. You can't reach the switch and fold the top properly at the same time.
Switching to manual is not a valid option for everyone including myself, and won't remedy the situation. Just a "patch" the way I look at it, maybe even less. You still have to get out of the car, manual or automatic, to lay down the top and to make sure everything is where it should be. Another good practice (while you are out sorting everything) is to lay a large towel on the rear window before it is completely folded to prevent a scratched and 'hazy" looking rear window. This way you avoid contact "clear plastic-clear plastic" and your window will look like new even after years of operation. Mine still does after 11 years of operation.

However, best thing to do is to pay attention to detail regardless. Happy hump-day!
Reply
Old May 31, 2017 | 09:32 AM
  #13  
quakerJacket's Avatar
quakerJacket
Track Day
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Jul 2010
Posts: 23
Likes: 0
From: Riverside, IL
Default

Any chance someone could post a picture that helps show how to make sure the top is folding properly?

Thanks,
Joe
Reply
Old May 31, 2017 | 10:03 AM
  #14  
Rockit's Avatar
Rockit
Thread Starter
Racer
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Apr 2015
Posts: 477
Likes: 3
From: Central, NJ
Default

Originally Posted by quakerJacket
Any chance someone could post a picture that helps show how to make sure the top is folding properly?

Thanks,
Joe
Yes that would be a HUGE help.
Reply
Old May 31, 2017 | 05:32 PM
  #15  
2RedPorsche's Avatar
2RedPorsche
Burning Brakes
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 1,092
Likes: 41
From: Mississauga, Ontario
Default

Originally Posted by Rockit
Thanks...did you happen to take any pictures ??? not of the hole but the strape...my roof is new and I guarantee its not there if it not part of the roof.
It's hard to capture a good pic because everything is black but I've attached the best I could get.
You can see the bracket for the bar (piece with long part number on it) and it's in the correct position. You can see the large pin to the right that will puncture your roof if the bar isn't pushing the roof back. The wavy elastic under the part number on the bracket is the elastic on the passenger side and you have the same on the drivers side. Mine doesn't seem to have much tension to it anymore but lately my roof has been behaving and the bar has been pushing the canvas back.
You can also see a patch that was glued on from the inside by an upolstery shop to strengthen the roof on both sides where it's been punctured.
Hope this helps.
Attached Images
File Type: jpeg
image.jpeg (1.31 MB, 564 views)
Reply



All times are GMT -3. The time now is 09:46 AM.

story-0
9 Vehicles Porsche Helped Engineer that Aren't Porsches

Slideshow: Long before engineering consulting became trendy, Porsche was quietly helping other automakers build everything from supercars to economy hatchbacks.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-15 12:44:44


VIEW MORE
story-1
9 Features and Characteristics That Only Porsche People Understand

Slideshow: Some brands build cars. Porsche builds traditions, obsessions, and a few habits that stopped making sense decades ago but somehow became part of the charm.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-13 18:46:13


VIEW MORE
story-2
I've Written 500 Rennlist Articles: Here's How Porsche Has Changed Along the Way

Slideshow: Six years and 500 Rennlist articles later, these are the biggest changes at Porsche.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-11 09:52:55


VIEW MORE
story-3
10 Most Unnecessary Porsches Ever Built (And Why We Love Them)

Slideshow: Some Porsches exist for very specific reasons-others feel like they were built just to see if anyone would notice.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-06 18:00:32


VIEW MORE
story-4
Porsche 911 GT3 S/C vs 718 Spyder RS: 10 Categories, One Winner

Slideshow: Choosing between the 911 GT3 S/C and 718 Spyder RS in 10 key categories to determine one surprising winner.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-05 12:51:46


VIEW MORE
story-5
This Builder Is Turning Heads With Its Slantnose 911 Creation

Slideshow: A small Polish tuner has reimagined the Porsche 911 Slantnose for the modern era, blending 1980s nostalgia with widebody tuning culture and serious performance upgrades.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-01 10:49:43


VIEW MORE
story-6
Porsche 911 GT3 Artisan Edition Pays Homage to Japanese Culture

Slideshow: Porsche has created a Japan-only 911 GT3 Artisan Edition that blends track-ready hardware with design cues inspired by traditional Japanese craftsmanship.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-28 19:37:40


VIEW MORE
story-7
Porsche Reveals Coupe Variant of the Electric Cayenne With a Fresh Look

Slideshow: Porsche's latest electric Cayenne Coupe blends dramatic styling with supercar acceleration, turning the brand's midsize SUV into a 1,139-horsepower flagship.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-27 19:39:30


VIEW MORE
story-8
10 Porsche Colors That Have More Personality Than Most People

Slideshow: Porsche's wildest paint colors aren't just shades-they're full-blown personalities on four wheels.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-27 19:38:13


VIEW MORE
story-9
Guntherwerks' Final Speedster Creation Is the Ultimate Porsche Restomod

Slideshow: The last of the Speedsters doesn't just close a chapter, it makes quite the bold, air-cooled statement.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-22 17:55:04


VIEW MORE