New Goodies for my C2S! - Part II
10-30-2003, 01:51 AM
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New Goodies for my C2S! - Part II
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Well the nice UPS man made another delivery today! I wonder what could be inside this time...
As I mentioned before, my main gripe with my 993 is the wimpy exhaust note. My Honda S2000 sounds like a screaming banshee / F1 race car compared to my Porsche. After much deliberation, I narrowed my choices down to the following:
1. Fabspeed Maxflo. Pros: Nice sound (obvious) - not too loud, but more importantly, not too quiet
. Cons: Minor resonance at ~3k?
2. Fabspeed Supercups. Pros: Sounds like a stadium full of harleys during a rock concert during a thunderstorm. Cons: What was that? I seem to have lost my hearing.
4. B&B. Pros: Aggressive exhaust note. Cons: RESONANCE!! ARRGGHH!!!! I can't hear my stereo cruising the highway!
3. RSR. Pros: Cheap!
and no resonance. Cons: Will I go from a wimper to a whisper?
After scouring Rennlist for advice, I decided to go with Robin's RSRs!
After removing the wrapping, I marvelled at the nice welding job. Robin's got skills!
Side by side with my stock Gillets (pretty decent shape after 50K miles!...
Rule number 1 when working on your Porsche. Make sure you have plenty of space!:
After slapping all the bits and pieces together and slipping on all the pools of WD40,
I fired her up with much anticipation....
...uuhhh, did I accidently install my stock mufflers? Honestly, at first, I was disappointed. I could not tell the difference between the RSRs and my stock exhaust (non motorsound exhausts). After driving for ~15 minutes on the highway, I noticed that the exhaust note got a little bit louder. I would say that overall, the RSRs are maybe 10% louder than stock. Cabin noise is virtually unchanged (which might be a good thing). The good news is that there's absolutely zero resonance. The best way to describe the sound is that it's exactly the same "tone" as stock, just a wee bit louder. Although they do sound waaayy better than stock, I don't think I'm going to keep them at this point since I crave a more aggressive exhaust note.
Stay tuned for Part III!
On a side note, I want to thank Robin for all of his help. Great service and he answered all of my stupid questions!
click here!
Well the nice UPS man made another delivery today! I wonder what could be inside this time...
As I mentioned before, my main gripe with my 993 is the wimpy exhaust note. My Honda S2000 sounds like a screaming banshee / F1 race car compared to my Porsche. After much deliberation, I narrowed my choices down to the following:
1. Fabspeed Maxflo. Pros: Nice sound (obvious) - not too loud, but more importantly, not too quiet
. Cons: Minor resonance at ~3k?2. Fabspeed Supercups. Pros: Sounds like a stadium full of harleys during a rock concert during a thunderstorm. Cons: What was that? I seem to have lost my hearing.
4. B&B. Pros: Aggressive exhaust note. Cons: RESONANCE!! ARRGGHH!!!! I can't hear my stereo cruising the highway!
3. RSR. Pros: Cheap!
and no resonance. Cons: Will I go from a wimper to a whisper?After scouring Rennlist for advice, I decided to go with Robin's RSRs!
After removing the wrapping, I marvelled at the nice welding job. Robin's got skills!
Side by side with my stock Gillets (pretty decent shape after 50K miles!...
Rule number 1 when working on your Porsche. Make sure you have plenty of space!
: After slapping all the bits and pieces together and slipping on all the pools of WD40,
I fired her up with much anticipation....
...uuhhh, did I accidently install my stock mufflers? Honestly, at first, I was disappointed. I could not tell the difference between the RSRs and my stock exhaust (non motorsound exhausts). After driving for ~15 minutes on the highway, I noticed that the exhaust note got a little bit louder. I would say that overall, the RSRs are maybe 10% louder than stock. Cabin noise is virtually unchanged (which might be a good thing). The good news is that there's absolutely zero resonance. The best way to describe the sound is that it's exactly the same "tone" as stock, just a wee bit louder. Although they do sound waaayy better than stock, I don't think I'm going to keep them at this point since I crave a more aggressive exhaust note.
Stay tuned for Part III!
On a side note, I want to thank Robin for all of his help. Great service and he answered all of my stupid questions!
09-26-2004, 04:50 AM
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The RSR's will gain some nice tone after a few hundred miles, or several heat cycles. Keep them on for some time and I think you'll fall in love with them.. I did..
09-26-2004, 01:00 PM
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That Premio Computer box looked familiar. Those of us who have bought RSR's stateside have seen it before. Congrats on the exhaust! Unless you like resonance, stick with the RSR's.
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i was driving through a tunnel in my wife's car (mbz wagon) as i got passed by something that certainly sounded like a harley - after regaining my witts, i look over it is a 993 with supercups. hmmm, i thought that was really really loud (i'm sure the tunnel didn't help) and then i thought - glad i went with the RSRs.
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09-26-2004, 05:26 PM
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I am struggling with this same decision.... stock is definitely too quiet. RSR vs OEM Motorsound vs Fabspeed, etc. Definitely dont want resonance. Have searched and read archives several times....
It would be awesome if there were comparison audio clips out there somewhere...the guys on the E46 M3 board did this once, and has served for hundreds of people since. Kind of hard to make happen though....you basically need to find 4-5 fellow 993 owners in same area with different exhausts, and have them show up for a video/audio taping. I think the E46 one lasted about 5minutes in total, with each car at idle, then revving, then driving off, etc.
Anyways, I am leaning toward the RSR option...but this post concerns me a little, as it sounds like not much different than stock....for this guy anways.
It would be awesome if there were comparison audio clips out there somewhere...the guys on the E46 M3 board did this once, and has served for hundreds of people since. Kind of hard to make happen though....you basically need to find 4-5 fellow 993 owners in same area with different exhausts, and have them show up for a video/audio taping. I think the E46 one lasted about 5minutes in total, with each car at idle, then revving, then driving off, etc.
Anyways, I am leaning toward the RSR option...but this post concerns me a little, as it sounds like not much different than stock....for this guy anways.
09-26-2004, 05:48 PM
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mrsullivan,
Fear not. There is plenty of great sound from the RSR's. New mufflers was the first mod I ever made, the decision having been made within thirty minutes of owning the car. Sound like ride quality and handling, are very subjective, but if you've gone through the archives, you've seen that there's a general consensus on Robin's mufflers. I noticed a big difference when I swapped the old ones out. Anything else that's non-OEM is going to give you resonance.
Fear not. There is plenty of great sound from the RSR's. New mufflers was the first mod I ever made, the decision having been made within thirty minutes of owning the car. Sound like ride quality and handling, are very subjective, but if you've gone through the archives, you've seen that there's a general consensus on Robin's mufflers. I noticed a big difference when I swapped the old ones out. Anything else that's non-OEM is going to give you resonance.