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In all my years of P-car ownership, all models have needed regular window switch replacement.
It's not a big problem, but are there any more robust alternatives to the unreliable original design?
It's not a big problem, but are there any more robust alternatives to the unreliable original design?
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I've posted about this before and never heard anyone reply that there was a more robust replacement (or any replacement at all). It is the same switch as used on an Audi (but they're no cheaper). I am at the stage where I keep a couple on hand (about $36 each). Over the past four years I've had to have replaced 10 (between both p-cars).
You'd think Porsche's engineers might have done a better job, especially as they must have been a warranty nightmare over the years (at least from '89 to '98).
I actually got quite good at repairing them - you can get them apart but it isn't easy, and depending on the internal damage, a little super glue will fix some problems.
You'd think Porsche's engineers might have done a better job, especially as they must have been a warranty nightmare over the years (at least from '89 to '98).
I actually got quite good at repairing them - you can get them apart but it isn't easy, and depending on the internal damage, a little super glue will fix some problems.
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica"> Simon Shearer wrote:
Over the past four years I've had to have replaced 10 </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">In 3 years of p-car ownership, I have never had a problem with them. I wonder which experience is more typical?
Over the past four years I've had to have replaced 10 </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">In 3 years of p-car ownership, I have never had a problem with them. I wonder which experience is more typical?
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I've blown through 3 in the past two months. Never had a prob with my 89 C4. Absurd.
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I've also never had to replace any window swithches on both of my 993s...I've had one for 3 years and the other for 5. Could it be an electrical current/surge issue, or perhaps water shorting them?
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I've replaced 6-8 switches.
2 distinct issues.
1) Switch shorts electrically - no longer operates window.
2) Cheap plastic internals in switch break - sometimes you can wiggle it to make it work - other times must be replaced immediately.
I bought my first 3 and since have had all replaced under 2 year (1 year?) warranty parts replacement.
As for why they break so often... well I don't use my AC much so I have the windows up and down a lot. Might just be an issues of frequency of usage. Certainly the driver's side go more frequently.
And of course group statistics are meaningless for any single user's experience - so it's entirely possible that I have had 10 failures and Dan 0. My shop tells me this is a VERY common issue at least going back to the 964.
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2 distinct issues.
1) Switch shorts electrically - no longer operates window.
2) Cheap plastic internals in switch break - sometimes you can wiggle it to make it work - other times must be replaced immediately.
I bought my first 3 and since have had all replaced under 2 year (1 year?) warranty parts replacement.
As for why they break so often... well I don't use my AC much so I have the windows up and down a lot. Might just be an issues of frequency of usage. Certainly the driver's side go more frequently.
And of course group statistics are meaningless for any single user's experience - so it's entirely possible that I have had 10 failures and Dan 0. My shop tells me this is a VERY common issue at least going back to the 964.
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I have had to replace about 6 in 18 months on my 993.
I can verify that they are a very poor design and/or build quality.
I know that I am very cautious with how I use mine, but they break.
You have to keep at least 1 spare if you don't want to be caught with the window down at the wrong time.
Just a word of caution, the passenger and driver's switch for passenger window are on a circuit so if one of them busts, you can't close the passenger window.
PC replace mine now under warranty after I bought my initial replacements.
Pete.
I can verify that they are a very poor design and/or build quality.
I know that I am very cautious with how I use mine, but they break.
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You have to keep at least 1 spare if you don't want to be caught with the window down at the wrong time.
Just a word of caution, the passenger and driver's switch for passenger window are on a circuit so if one of them busts, you can't close the passenger window.
PC replace mine now under warranty after I bought my initial replacements.
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I too have had to replace two switches in the last year. As FLOPBUSTER states above, my passenger window was completly out even from the drivers side control. Thank God I had the window "up". Pretty cheap piece of equipment along w/ the door click...CE light on......Dont' get me started !!
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I have never had a window switch break on my prior 964 or on my current 993. Maybe I have just been lucky, as I too use my windows much more then air conditioning.
There are, however, sturdier replacement switches. When the search function comes back, check for a prior post from me with a link to an advertisement for some. No affiliation, I just came across the ad and passed along the information to someone who was interested. My memory is a bit fuzzy, but they may have been on eBay; if so, I think it was recent enough that the link should still work. Good luck.
There are, however, sturdier replacement switches. When the search function comes back, check for a prior post from me with a link to an advertisement for some. No affiliation, I just came across the ad and passed along the information to someone who was interested. My memory is a bit fuzzy, but they may have been on eBay; if so, I think it was recent enough that the link should still work. Good luck.
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Another vote for poorly designed window switches.
They are virtually disposable items on mine. One switch a year so far.
I wonder if it is the way I press the switch : slightly sideways and down/up as opposed to straight up/down.
Tito.
They are virtually disposable items on mine. One switch a year so far.
I wonder if it is the way I press the switch : slightly sideways and down/up as opposed to straight up/down.
Tito.
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I just blew my first window switch ![Embarrassment](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/redface.gif)
Can anyone recommend a cheap source for an OEM switch? My old one had a part number starting with "964". Is that correct?
The search function is still not working (for items more than around 10 day sold). Does anyone know about this 'sturdier' switch?
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Can anyone recommend a cheap source for an OEM switch? My old one had a part number starting with "964". Is that correct?
There are, however, sturdier replacement switches. When the search function comes back, check for a prior post from me with a link to an advertisement for some
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So I'm sitting there reading everyone's threads about failing window switches, going "Mine is rock solid! Never gonna happen". Well, I was on the way to the stealer, rolled down my driver's side window, and guess what popped out? (no need for the sicker minded to answer
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