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Old 05-27-2016, 04:41 PM
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Anything Bill said is correct!!
Old 05-27-2016, 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Foxman
+993 I'm set at ROW now with the B8's and MO33's - but no room left to go any lower. I'm very pleased with the ride, but it would be nice to be able to bring her down another half inch or so.
I completely agree. I was thinking about changing it but decided that was silly for a relative garage queen Its still a great setup!
Old 05-28-2016, 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by mpruden
You're certainly justified in your confusion. I'll throw out my understanding, and will let others poke holes in my theory.

The B8 has a stroke (length of the piston) that is similar to the factory Monroes, and shorter than the B6s. This does not mean that the car will sit lower when on the ground. Instead, it means that the top of the spring will remain in contact with the car when the car is on a lift. This is important to some owners where a gap when the car is lifted would cause an inspection failure.

The B6 has 2 differences:
1) The stroke is longer - you may get a gap when some springs are unloaded.
2) There are more threads on the shocks, so you can further lower the spring perch on the shock body, therefore lowering the ride height.

You guys that know suspensions - please read this and poke holes in it.
I think you are spot on mpruden.

Here is an old post by Gert that sheds some light on it. Seems most people equate HD's as B6's but you can see B8's called HD (which just stands for heavy duty) too. Too avoid confusion I think maybe we should say "B6" or "B8" instead of HD. Then there are 2 versions of the B6, euro and north america

https://rennlist.com/forums/993-foru...ad-of-hds.html

Originally Posted by Gert
Bilstein B6 for the 993 have always been called HD (heavy duty).
The B6 for the US market always have the extra threaded fronts ("invented" by Carnewal btw).
B6 offered by the RoW dealers always have the limited threads on the fronts and is what we call the "normal" B6 shocks.

The B8 for the 993 has the same damping and threads as the "normal" B6, only the piston length is 20mm shorter.
This to eliminate the floating spring problem that might appear when you install shorter springs like for example the M033 springs. Mainly in countries with a strict yearly technical inspection like Belgium and Germany, inspectors don't like to see loose springs when the car is on a lift.


Originally Posted by Coop
Anything Bill said is correct!!
I agree. Maybe Bill will chime in again. I still don't understand how some folks get RS heights with B8

Originally Posted by skl2
I completely agree. I was thinking about changing it but decided that was silly for a relative garage queen Its still a great setup!
Not silly at all. Especially if you are in your return period little things like that drive me nuts, something I prob need to work on....

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Old 05-28-2016, 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by JB 911
Hi Dan, missed you on the last run. Are the HD's B6's or B8's? Or is that another/ or older option?
I don't know, but they are old, purchased in 2007. They do have the extra threads, however.

My ride height is either RS+5mm or RS+10mm, whichever is halfway between RS and RoW Sport height. I can't remember and Rockit's post doesn't have the RS height.

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Old 06-17-2016, 01:56 PM
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Here is a pic of stock U.S. springs top and euro spec ROW now with the B8's and MO33's below.

Handles better and does not bottom out....looks MUCH better.

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Old 05-05-2017, 10:35 AM
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great thread, answers many questions I had.



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