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Old 12-22-2015, 08:27 PM
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I drive mine about 5k a year. I have the engine out and doing a reseal, but had it not been for the differential, it would have not been necessary. They are great cars, especially if you can do the work.
Old 12-22-2015, 08:40 PM
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Purchased my '95 C2 in the Spring of 2012 for $26,500 Cdn with 82,000 miles. This car is bullet proof and everytime I bring up doing prev maintenance items on the car my Indy laughs at me and tells me to save my money. Hands down best car I have ever owned.
Old 12-22-2015, 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by 1crazy canuck
Thanks for the responses guys ... I guess finding a good trustworthy "non-raping" indy shop is a huge MUST for owning a 993.

reading through the old threads about rust worried me a bit , and the oil leaks.

Have a friend of a friend who does a motor tear down every 5 years on his 993TT.

Is this necessary ? particularly for someone like me who doesn't drive a lot due to my lifestyle and schedule ?

Is a 993 ok with being driven only 5K miles a year ?

And back to the topic at hand- the pricing was that $30NB $40 WB and $60TT pricing right after 996 launch or after 997 launch ?
Most of us here didn't have 993s when 996 or 997 were launched. I was still in college when 997 came out.
Old 12-22-2015, 08:52 PM
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I bought my base model 1985 993 C4 for $35k in 1998 and I figure it is still worth that, so it has seemed a pretty good deal. Maintenance of course means one never "makes money" on a car.

The 1987 Syncro Camper has worked out similarly: bought in 1991 for $11k and arguably worth the same or better today.

Mike
Old 12-22-2015, 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by mlincoln
I bought my base model 1985 993 C4 for $35k in 1998 and I figure it is still worth that, so it has seemed a pretty good deal. Maintenance of course means one never "makes money" on a car.



Mike
None of these numbers make any sense...
Old 12-22-2015, 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by mlincoln
Maintenance of course means one never "makes money" on a car.
Usually, but not always true for those who bought low in 993 ownership.
Old 12-22-2015, 11:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Leander
None of these numbers make any sense...
What doesn't make sense? Base C2 listed for a mere ca. 55k in 1995 if I remember correctly, so they started cheap. The MSRP prices rose rapidly over the next several years. Then I bought it three and a half years old (it was delivered fall 1994) from an over-extended guy who was building a dream house on 10 acres on Utah's Weber River and needed the cash.

I recall that I paid just about $35k then. Now it has 80k miles but is in nice shape for a base C4 model. It seems reasonable that it might be worth about what I paid.

But why oh why didn't I buy a clapped out speedster back in college? And why did I sell my 1970 911T? (Yes...I sold it after buying the 993).

Mike
Old 12-22-2015, 11:16 PM
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Most Ludicrous Post of 2015:

Originally Posted by Gt3stig
Rust under the front and rear window trim.
Worn motor mounts.
Re build/replace shifter and linkage.
Re build pedal assembly.
Replace window switches 4 times a year.
Replace front and rear bushings,
Uprights and springs.
Headlight switches every 4 years.
Endless trouble shooting of the resonance flap. ( Indy shop, one of the best )
Broken valve springs.
Old 12-22-2015, 11:48 PM
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Originally Posted by mlincoln
What doesn't make sense? Base C2 listed for a mere ca. 55k in 1995 if I remember correctly, so they started cheap. The MSRP prices rose rapidly over the next several years. Then I bought it three and a half years old (it was delivered fall 1994) from an over-extended guy who was building a dream house on 10 acres on Utah's Weber River and needed the cash.

I recall that I paid just about $35k then. Now it has 80k miles but is in nice shape for a base C4 model. It seems reasonable that it might be worth about what I paid.

But why oh why didn't I buy a clapped out speedster back in college? And why did I sell my 1970 911T? (Yes...I sold it after buying the 993).

Mike

First off, you said it's a 1985 993
Second, $35k for a 1995 just 3 years later is an amazing deal. Are you sure they originally sold for just $55k? My 1996 was $78k
Old 12-23-2015, 12:21 AM
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Default Found the actual sales info and sticker info on the 993 down in the basement

Sorry for the fumble fingers: yes, a 1995 (94 1/2) 993. The 1995 C2 was $54,900 in bone-stock, base model condition if I recall correctly (that may have been without guzzler tax, delivery, etc). That price was kind of a loss leader they put out following the early 1990's recession. As I recall the price quickly accelerated both with options and in subsequent years. But someone else probably has better memory of the prices.

But now you've challenged me to dig up my files to find the original documents.

The original window sticker shows:

Porsche 1995 Carrera 4 coupe 65900
Midnight Blue Metallic 1036
Porsche floor mats-Cashmere 125
Power seat package 956
AM/FM radio cassette player n/c
Rim Caps (4) with Porsche crest 240
On board computer 422
Gas guzzler tax 1000
Total factory list 69993
Destination charge 725
Grand total list price $70,718

I don't have any information on what the original owner actually paid to the dealer (Dave Strong Porsche in Salt Lake).

I also found my original loan. It turns out *that loan* was the $35k I remembered through my rose colored glasses. I had sold the 1970 911T of course, and an old 912--the stupidest moves I've ever made--in order to fund the purchase. So the actual total was a bit higher: I found the original bill of sale in my credit union folder, showing a selling price (no motor vehicle department tax fibs, real price) of $39,900. Then I paid $3,100 Utah tax title, registration, and license fees. So altogether I paid $43,000. And I hope it is worth at least mid 30's today.

My daughter--the one who, as in infant, is my avatar--wants to drive it to college (??? !!!). Maybe we'll start with a clapped out Honda first, with modern stability controls and airbags, until she accumulates her first couple of crashes.

Mike
Old 12-23-2015, 10:27 AM
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This is for the OP. A/C 911's are now regularly trading between countries and crossing oceans....this means they are priced much less locally and much more globaly than ever before. Since you are a Canadian, as am I, we may've already seen the lowest pricing (in CDN$) than we will ever see going forward. Many of the guys posting are quoting in US$ at times when our currency was worth nothing....sort of like now. In the past, when was the cheapest time to buy? For a Canadian, probably when the CDN$ was at it's strongest against the US$. Cheers
Old 12-23-2015, 02:14 PM
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You're probably right for the on the currency bit....It's a great time for our american friends to buy Canadian cars due to the virtually 40% discount in the dollar.

Im seeing 997's and 993's in Canada all priced in US $, and have anecdotally heard of these cars going south. I guess the best buys for Americans (and the worst ones for Canadians now) are the cars that are American cars that were imported to Canada in the last 10-12 years, and are easy to send back to the US as they are US cars - originally delivered there, and speedos in miles etc.
Old 12-23-2015, 03:10 PM
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Thought I share my experience. After looking for a certain color combo for a good 16-18 months a car popped up in Delray, Florida from a small dealer. Took position in early March of 2012. Cost 34K with 57K miles.
Old 12-23-2015, 04:38 PM
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I paid $24k for my C2 coupe with 65kish miles in Sept. 2012. A year earlier my boss was selling his very nice 57k mile 97 C2S for $39k and it took about 4-6 weeks to sell.
Old 12-23-2015, 05:01 PM
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It's an expensive buy-in for an A/C car for a Canadian

I agree with Drisump.It's an expensive buy-in for a Canadian looking for an A/C car now.Likely to get worse.Pags993 made out very well.


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