Notices
993 Forum 1995-1998
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

low oil level for winter preparation?!

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 11-02-2015, 10:55 AM
  #1  
Railmaster.
Three Wheelin'
Thread Starter
 
Railmaster.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Posts: 1,480
Received 109 Likes on 80 Posts
Default low oil level for winter preparation?!

Hi All!

I'm reading in Adrian Streather's Porsche 993 that He suggests that You park Your 993 for the winter with the oil level a little low, say a quart or so. And before You start the engine next time in the spring He suggests that You pour a quart of oil into the engine in order to have it covered with oil on the, after the winter, dry engine parts inside the engine.

But if You ask Me the quart of oil will go straight into the oil tank without touching the internals of the engine!

Am I right and Mr Streather wrong?

(The trick may work with an old Morris Minor where You fill the oil in a hole on top of the actual engine!)
Old 11-02-2015, 12:05 PM
  #2  
Quadcammer
Race Director
 
Quadcammer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Clifton, NJ
Posts: 15,688
Received 1,425 Likes on 825 Posts
Default

yeah, his argument makes no sense.

You could always crank the car with the DME removed to get oil moving before you fire it up.
Old 11-02-2015, 12:15 PM
  #3  
P-daddy
Rennlist Member
 
P-daddy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: MD
Posts: 6,973
Received 478 Likes on 283 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Quadcammer
yeah, his argument makes no sense.

You could always crank the car with the DME removed to get oil moving before you fire it up.
This
Old 11-02-2015, 12:26 PM
  #4  
Mike J
Addict
Lifetime Rennlist
Member
 
Mike J's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Vancouver, BC
Posts: 8,363
Received 71 Likes on 58 Posts
Default

Adding a litre later does not make any sense to me either. What page?

I have been saying for years that it's much better to turn the engine over every month of storage with the DME relay pulled than start and idle the car. I even do it when the car sits for over a week or so just to pre-lube any parts where the oil may have gradually left. Another trick - not really on topic here but good if you do the above - is to always rotate or start the car without the clutch engaged so you do not load the bearing behind the flywheel before any oil pressure is built. That may involve shorting the clutch switch so the engine will turn over without the clutch engaged.

Is also good practice on an oil change. Drain the oil, change the filters, and fill up 7 litres. Remove the DME relay, crank the engine in 10 second bursts until you get at least 1 bar oil pressure -> usually on the third crank. Then fill up to 9.5 litres, replace the relay and start the car. Go for a drive, fully warm up the oil, and then top it up to exactly where you want it - which is in the lower 1/3 of the twisted part of the dipstick.

Gee, off topic again.. sorry.

Cheers,

Mike
Old 11-02-2015, 01:20 PM
  #5  
uniquenamehere
Three Wheelin'
 
uniquenamehere's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Ontario, Canada
Posts: 1,300
Likes: 0
Received 156 Likes on 107 Posts
Default

That's good advice Mike... you're an asset to Rennlist!
Old 11-02-2015, 01:48 PM
  #6  
EMBPilot
Banned
 
EMBPilot's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Jersey Shore
Posts: 2,382
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Railmaster.
Hi All!

I'm reading in Adrian Streather's Porsche 993 that He suggests that You park Your 993 for the winter with the oil level a little low, say a quart or so. And before You start the engine next time in the spring He suggests that You pour a quart of oil into the engine in order to have it covered with oil on the, after the winter, dry engine parts inside the engine.
i think he meant to say "pour it into the intake manifold..."
I just pour a quart into the clutch vent pipe, less mess.

Last edited by EMBPilot; 11-02-2015 at 02:21 PM.
Old 11-02-2015, 03:10 PM
  #7  
AOW162435
Seared
Rennlist Member
 
AOW162435's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Ellicott City, MD
Posts: 16,777
Received 418 Likes on 233 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Quadcammer
yeah, his argument makes no sense.

You could always crank the car with the DME removed to get oil moving before you fire it up.
^ This


Originally Posted by Mike J
Adding a litre later does not make any sense to me either. What page?

I have been saying for years that it's much better to turn the engine over every month of storage with the DME relay pulled than start and idle the car. I even do it when the car sits for over a week or so just to pre-lube any parts where the oil may have gradually left. Another trick - not really on topic here but good if you do the above - is to always rotate or start the car without the clutch engaged so you do not load the bearing behind the flywheel before any oil pressure is built. That may involve shorting the clutch switch so the engine will turn over without the clutch engaged.

Is also good practice on an oil change. Drain the oil, change the filters, and fill up 7 litres. Remove the DME relay, crank the engine in 10 second bursts until you get at least 1 bar oil pressure -> usually on the third crank. Then fill up to 9.5 litres, replace the relay and start the car. Go for a drive, fully warm up the oil, and then top it up to exactly where you want it - which is in the lower 1/3 of the twisted part of the dipstick.
^ This This


Originally Posted by EMBPilot
i think he meant to say "pour it into the intake manifold..."
I just pour a quart into the clutch vent pipe, less mess.
Gold.



Andreas
Old 11-02-2015, 09:09 PM
  #8  
PRSWILL
Rennlist Member
 
PRSWILL's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Minneapolis
Posts: 2,507
Received 470 Likes on 309 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Quadcammer
yeah, his argument makes no sense.

You could always crank the car with the DME removed to get oil moving before you fire it up.
YES this... I do this any time I let the car sit for more than a couple weeks.
Old 11-02-2015, 09:38 PM
  #9  
95_993
Race Car
 
95_993's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 4,210
Likes: 0
Received 560 Likes on 378 Posts
Default

i think he meant to say "pour it into the intake manifold..."
I just pour a quart into the clutch vent pipe, less mess.
or just overfill an extra quart or two and suck it through the intake coating the internals
Old 11-02-2015, 09:57 PM
  #10  
EMBPilot
Banned
 
EMBPilot's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Jersey Shore
Posts: 2,382
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by 95_993
or just overfill an extra quart or two and suck it through the intake coating the internals
lol why didnt i think of this?! so much easier
Old 11-02-2015, 10:16 PM
  #11  
cgfen
Rennlist Member
 
cgfen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Vista CA
Posts: 7,724
Received 875 Likes on 577 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Quadcammer
yeah, his argument makes no sense.

You could always crank the car with the DME removed to get oil moving before you fire it up.
most excellent advice

even better is to make a "priming rod"
  • remove the distributor
  • insert priming rod
  • attach drill motor
  • spin
  • watch oil pressure come up.
  • remove the stuff that doesn't belong
  • insert distributor
  • fire that mother up.


NOTE: none of the stuff i just typed in bullets may work on a dry sump car, but it worked GREAT on big block MOPARS to pre-oil an engine.

Steve W?



Quick Reply: low oil level for winter preparation?!



All times are GMT -3. The time now is 12:26 AM.