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Old Aug 11, 2015 | 01:50 AM
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Default Removing rear toe-in adjustment bolt

Replacing rear shocks and following the rear suspension replacement outlined at pcarworkshop.

Link: http://pcarworkshop.com/index.php/99...on_Replacement

The recommendation for removing the left side rear toe-in adjustment bolt is to
jack up the motor a bit so the bolt will clear the heat exchanger.
Tried that, but the motor did not move far enough so the bolt can come out.

Anyone have a different approach for this?
REALLY hoping that I don't have to remove the heat exchanger.
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Old Aug 11, 2015 | 08:09 AM
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I had the same problem and used a 2x2 block of wood and hammer to make a small dent in the heat exchanger by the head of the bolt. It gave me just enough room to get the bolt out.
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^ in addition to jacking up the motor.
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Old Aug 11, 2015 | 02:08 PM
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I never really understood why the need to pull out inner end of lower toe arm. Just pull out end that is in bottom of shock!
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Old Aug 11, 2015 | 02:17 PM
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Impossible to pull out the end attached to the shock; it is a ball joint that is part of the toe arm.

My bolt came out without moving the motor but I have new Wevo motor mounts. Not sure if that has anything to do with it.

Did you loosen the motor mounts before jacking up the motor. You should be able to move the motor as much as needed with the mounts loose.

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Old Aug 11, 2015 | 02:25 PM
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I just finished my shocks and I had the same problem even after jacking up the motor. I ended up lightly tapping the bolt to get the bolt head past the heat exchanger. It also took a light tap to get it back in but it worked out fine. Screw the nut on a few threads first to protect them. Hope this helps.
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I had the same problem and used a 2x2 block of wood and hammer to make a small dent in the heat exchanger by the head of the bolt. It gave me just enough room to get the bolt out.
I tried what I thought was a pretty good whack and I got zero movement (dent), so I decided to loosen up the motor mounts.

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Did you loosen the motor mounts before jacking up the motor. You should be able to move the motor as much as needed with the mounts loose.
I loosened the bolts on the top side of the stock motor mounts and tried jacking up again. Still not enough room.
Maybe I wasn't doing something right.

Finally decided to remove the rear cross member. The rear cross member is held on with 4 bolts.
The right link was already disconnected at the cross member, so the 2 cross member bolts on the right side came out easily.
On the left side, I could only remove the top cross member bolt. I could not loosen the cross member bolt blocked by the left link.
But I could loosen it, and that was all that was needed. After 3 of the 4 bolts were removed, the link and cross member would drop
low enough to clear the left heat exchanger and then I could slide out the left toe-in adjustment bolt.
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Originally Posted by Dplus
Impossible to pull out the end attached to the shock; it is a ball joint that is part of the toe arm.

My bolt came out without moving the motor but I have new Wevo motor mounts. Not sure if that has anything to do with it.

Did you loosen the motor mounts before jacking up the motor. You should be able to move the motor as much as needed with the mounts loose.

Good luck,

D.

You use a tie-rod puller tool and just pop the ball joint end out of shock end. When I put the rear monoballs camber plates, I did this and then just pulled whole strut assm. out, replaced top camber mounts and re-installed.
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Originally Posted by Carmen214
I just finished my shocks and I had the same problem even after jacking up the motor. I ended up lightly tapping the bolt to get the bolt head past the heat exchanger. It also took a light tap to get it back in but it worked out fine. Screw the nut on a few threads first to protect them. Hope this helps.
The above of my situation too. I also hit the back of that bolt and it did come right out. I also use a screwdriver by the hole in the back to keep the bolt lined
lt lined up so I can hit it and it would go out evenly, hopefully that will make sense
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when i put it back on i flipped the bolt so i wouldnt have to deal with it again.
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Originally Posted by OverBoosted28
You use a tie-rod puller tool and just pop the ball joint end out of shock end.
The ball joint on the end of the link that attaches to the shock end has a bolt that is 3 inches long.
The other end of the link is captured by the cross member.

Even after taking things apart, I didn't think the approach above would be possible.

But I just slipped the link back into the cross member and it does seem
that it would be possible to yank out the shock end of the link with a really good tug.

I now believe that rear suspension replacement can be done without even removing the toe-in bolts.
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Old Aug 13, 2015 | 12:56 AM
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Originally Posted by BesideTheBox
The ball joint on the end of the link that attaches to the shock end has a bolt that is 3 inches long.
The other end of the link is captured by the cross member.

Even after taking things apart, I didn't think the approach above would be possible.

But I just slipped the link back into the cross member and it does seem
that it would be possible to yank out the shock end of the link with a really good tug.

I now believe that rear suspension replacement can be done without even removing the toe-in bolts.
Yep, when it said "impossible", I'm like "no, that's what I did". I used force to pry at ball joint, while tapping end of bolt (with extra nut) and it'll "pop" loose. Then just hold female torx end and unscrew nut. Was able to push drooping suspension assembly, off of toe link ball-joint end. Then use floor (or bottle) Jack to help you realign it to put it together.
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It's really easy to do it now, after making my own links :-)
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Old Aug 13, 2015 | 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by BesideTheBox
Finally decided to remove the rear cross member. The rear cross member is held on with 4 bolts.
The right link was already disconnected at the cross member, so the 2 cross member bolts on the right side came out easily.
On the left side, I could only remove the top cross member bolt. I could not loosen the cross member bolt blocked by the left link.
But I could loosen it, and that was all that was needed. After 3 of the 4 bolts were removed, the link and cross member would drop
low enough to clear the left heat exchanger and then I could slide out the left toe-in adjustment bolt.
I did the same.
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