C2/C4 question/debate....???
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C2/C4 question/debate....???
Alright I know this may bring out the war tools but I am going to ask it anyway. I am trying to make the call on whether to get a C2 or a C4. I have driven both. I live in Colorado and although a lot of people think that there is a lot of snow in the winter here, there really is only the odd day that we get snow actually on the ground. I plan on driving the car in the winter but by that I mean when it is not dumping snow. I am not going to be using the 993 as a new snowplow.
So I guess what I was wondering is all of you who have the C2, do you drive it in the winter and if so how does it handle in inclement weather, should you get caught in it. I am of course assuming that you would have a good pair of winter tires on the car.
Also any recommendations on a good winter tire?
So I guess what I was wondering is all of you who have the C2, do you drive it in the winter and if so how does it handle in inclement weather, should you get caught in it. I am of course assuming that you would have a good pair of winter tires on the car.
Also any recommendations on a good winter tire?
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Neither car will do well in snow on Z rated performance rubber, which turns to stone when cold. Limited by ground clearance & w/proper winter/snow tires, either will do fine. The rear weight bias gives plenty of traction. Obviously, AWD will do better than RWD.
I find my C2 w/Dunlop Winter Sports easily out everythings my wife's A6 Quattro on "all seasons."
Several threads in the archives, e.g.
<a href="http://forums.rennlist.com/forums/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic&f=3&t=000836" target="_blank">Winter tires and wheels </a>
I find my C2 w/Dunlop Winter Sports easily out everythings my wife's A6 Quattro on "all seasons."
Several threads in the archives, e.g.
<a href="http://forums.rennlist.com/forums/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic&f=3&t=000836" target="_blank">Winter tires and wheels </a>
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No flame intended, but...Based upon the cars you list as owned (eg both a 2 and a 4 wd) I would have thought, based upon your personal experience, you should be helping to answer this question instead of asking for opinions. Am I missing something? <img src="graemlins/burnout.gif" border="0" alt="[burnout]" />
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Ploget,
Whatever you decide, drive on over to Boulder Nissan and talk to the owner - Jason Purdum. tell him E. J. sent you and he will find whatever car you want.
Personally, I think in your case the 4S and good 16" snow tires would give you a tank in the winter. BTW - I went to college in Denver too.
E. J.
Whatever you decide, drive on over to Boulder Nissan and talk to the owner - Jason Purdum. tell him E. J. sent you and he will find whatever car you want.
Personally, I think in your case the 4S and good 16" snow tires would give you a tank in the winter. BTW - I went to college in Denver too.
E. J.
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"laurence '97 C4S", yes I have had the C4 but it was the 964 and the AWD drive in that car compared to the 993 C4 is a lot different. I drove a 993 C4 yesterday in teh rain and got the thing sideways. I think the tires were still a little oily but it was not what I expected.
I had the 993 C2 thoughout the spring and summer months and never had it in the winter so that is why I dont know how the thing would deal with the odd snow storm. I got caught at work once with the C4 in a snow storm and it was very good overall. Not quite the Quattro of the Audi we have but close.
So I just wanted to hear if any of you "non-californians" (no offense but there is not much winter in most of Southern California) have or do drive their car in the winter months and how the car does in that weather.
I had the 993 C2 thoughout the spring and summer months and never had it in the winter so that is why I dont know how the thing would deal with the odd snow storm. I got caught at work once with the C4 in a snow storm and it was very good overall. Not quite the Quattro of the Audi we have but close.
So I just wanted to hear if any of you "non-californians" (no offense but there is not much winter in most of Southern California) have or do drive their car in the winter months and how the car does in that weather.
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I would say the following: the most important factor in conquering snow would be to have snow tires (as Dan 96C2 pointed out). Snow tires are more important than 4WD IMHO. A C2 with snow tires will clearly outperform a C4 without snows. A C4 with snows will outperform a C2 with snows. A C4 without snows (ie on high performance tires) is seriously limited.
As to getting a 993 C4 sideways, my experience on public roads is that you have to try to get the car sideways (absent oil, sand etc on the road surface which you experienced).
So I guess what I am saying is if you use snows, either car will handle the occassional snow storm. After that it is a function of which format you want the other 8 months of the year. I like 4wd personally. Regards.
I would say the following: the most important factor in conquering snow would be to have snow tires (as Dan 96C2 pointed out). Snow tires are more important than 4WD IMHO. A C2 with snow tires will clearly outperform a C4 without snows. A C4 with snows will outperform a C2 with snows. A C4 without snows (ie on high performance tires) is seriously limited.
As to getting a 993 C4 sideways, my experience on public roads is that you have to try to get the car sideways (absent oil, sand etc on the road surface which you experienced).
So I guess what I am saying is if you use snows, either car will handle the occassional snow storm. After that it is a function of which format you want the other 8 months of the year. I like 4wd personally. Regards.
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While I now live in the SF Bay area, I lived in Boulder for 5 years. I would not drive either a C2 or C4 there on days with snow on the ground. Putting snow tires on a p-car makes for a lot less fun on the clear days and you still have to deal with the morons that think 4WD Jeeps have special laws of physics because they have 4WD.
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I don't know about inclement weather, and I'm not familiar with the 4WD system on the 993. That said, I have NEVER driven a vehicle that corners like my new C4S 996! 
This car feels like its on rails in turns. Totally smooth and secure! I would not consider trading it for a C2!
This car feels like its on rails in turns. Totally smooth and secure! I would not consider trading it for a C2!
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