Short Shift Kits - Options
07-31-2003, 10:17 AM
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Short Shift Kits - Options
I realize that maybe this subject has been covered in the past, but can't seem to get any hits under the search function. I'm looking into possibly replacing the current OEM shifter. I'm looking into the aftermarket short shift kit offered/manufactured by B&M's or Weltmeister or oem Porsche kit offered by Gert. Any comments on the major difference/performance/reliability of these kits?
Many thanks,
JG
Many thanks,
JG
07-31-2003, 10:28 AM
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JG,
I am in the process of putting in the OEM kit. For the slight price diff. why not go OEM? I think the other kits are just knock off's of the factory parts.
Check Robin's DYI (www.p-car.com) If you get stuck with the installation, let me know. Where in ChiTown are you?
I am in the process of putting in the OEM kit. For the slight price diff. why not go OEM? I think the other kits are just knock off's of the factory parts.
Check Robin's DYI (www.p-car.com) If you get stuck with the installation, let me know. Where in ChiTown are you?
07-31-2003, 11:01 AM
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Eric,
Hope all is well. We actually met at the last Chicago area gathering/drive to Wisco. organized by Bob. I'm live in downtown Chicago (Gold Coast area). I really appreciate the offer. I was thinking of probably doing this in the next few weeks or so. Who are you getting the short-shift kit from?
Hope all is well. We actually met at the last Chicago area gathering/drive to Wisco. organized by Bob. I'm live in downtown Chicago (Gold Coast area). I really appreciate the offer. I was thinking of probably doing this in the next few weeks or so. Who are you getting the short-shift kit from?
07-31-2003, 11:08 AM
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I bought mine from Schatz Motorsports. They sell the FVD model (looks like the factory piece to me). The TT requires only one piece instead of two or three pieces for the NA cars when doing the short shift install. The other two pieces would have added 15 minutes to the install. REAL SIMPLE, and unless you have a 4WD, you don't even need to take a hammer to your car... Total install time is around 2-3 hours for your typical DIYer. If you have taken your console out before, then it is even easier.
Don't wait until winter....
Don't wait until winter....
07-31-2003, 11:13 AM
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I did quite a bit of research, when I did mine last month. What I basically came up with was interesting. Gert told me most units are the same design and when the units are side by side that appears to be the case. At the time Gert had some on sale. The unit works great, a vast improvement IMHO. Just zip Gert an email, sometimes he'll even match his previous sale prices to "Rennlist" members.
Good Luck!
Good Luck!
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07-31-2003, 11:20 AM
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Mike, got it from Gert (should be here on Friday) I have the old stuff out waiting on FedEx!
JG-B, We should have had name tags!! I thought we had met. Let me know when you get yours and I would be happy to help, I am just a couple of miles west of Mich. Ave.
JG-B, We should have had name tags!! I thought we had met. Let me know when you get yours and I would be happy to help, I am just a couple of miles west of Mich. Ave.
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07-31-2003, 11:22 AM
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Bob,
Easy for you to say "don't wait till winter". Summers are so short here that even having the car down for a day is painful. Thanks for the tips. I will probably order from Gert. Enjoy your year round ride....
Mike Cap
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Easy for you to say "don't wait till winter". Summers are so short here that even having the car down for a day is painful. Thanks for the tips. I will probably order from Gert. Enjoy your year round ride....
Mike Cap
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07-31-2003, 01:09 PM
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Surprisingly, I found the RUF short-shifter was the cheapest option for me when I explored the different models. I've sampled a few and found that the while the shift reduction is decent, but don't expect a short throw comparable to that found in a miata or S2000. My favorite improvement from this upgrade is that the shifter sits higher up, so the distance from the steering wheel is lessened.
07-31-2003, 04:09 PM
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Hi, i was wondering if anyone knew what the difference, and if you need the shift rod?
On Gert's site it shows two listings:
Shift lever and fork 75 Euro.
Shift lever, fork and shift rod 275 Euro
Does the Shift Rod make a difference and is it needed? thanks!
chris
On Gert's site it shows two listings:
Shift lever and fork 75 Euro.
Shift lever, fork and shift rod 275 Euro
Does the Shift Rod make a difference and is it needed? thanks!
chris
07-31-2003, 04:33 PM
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993 Power,
You don't NEED the shift rod, but it does have a tighter, more robust u-joint than the stock unit. In response to an e-mail, Gert said he didn't think it was worth the 200 euros more. I ended up buying the new rod however, because during a quick reconnaissance, I determined my existing rod was knackered... the u-joint was really sloppy, presumably due to worn out rubber (!) internals. I am planning on installing the kit this weekend, so I should know more next week!
Mark.
You don't NEED the shift rod, but it does have a tighter, more robust u-joint than the stock unit. In response to an e-mail, Gert said he didn't think it was worth the 200 euros more. I ended up buying the new rod however, because during a quick reconnaissance, I determined my existing rod was knackered... the u-joint was really sloppy, presumably due to worn out rubber (!) internals. I am planning on installing the kit this weekend, so I should know more next week!
Mark.
08-01-2003, 01:06 AM
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Originally posted by Silver Bullet
Get a short shift kit from Steve W. I believe that it has the OEM mechanicals but the shifter is billet aluminum. Of course, if you want it to look stock, then get it from Gert.
Get a short shift kit from Steve W. I believe that it has the OEM mechanicals but the shifter is billet aluminum. Of course, if you want it to look stock, then get it from Gert.
08-01-2003, 03:23 AM
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I too have been looking into the short shift kit and emailed Gert about the OEM version that he sells. My concern is that I don't want the shifter to sit any higher than stock. Gert has told me that his kit does not change the height at all. Can anyone who confirm or deny this? In addition to the Ruf kit that Temple has, does anyone know which kits actually raise the shifter? I definitely want to do this upgrade while maintaining the original height.
Steve
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08-01-2003, 10:21 AM
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I have the OEM RS kit in my car and I don't think the height is any different than stock. I can't confirm that, as my PO had the kit installed before I bought it, but I can tell you that the shifter falls very comfortably to hand and feels like it's "right" to me. Plus, the RS shifter looks fantastic with my marble grey interior. Just my $.02.